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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
September 29, 2009 at 6:41 am
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(September 29, 2009 at 4:10 am)solarwave Wrote: Im not saying don't go to the doctor. The Placebo effect only works on certain illness, as far as i know not instant cures to blindness, deafness, broken or shortened bones, etc.
If god is perfect, why can't he restore sight for the blind, restore hearing for the deaf or provide limbs for those in loss? What is so hard about it?
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
September 29, 2009 at 7:18 am
(September 29, 2009 at 6:05 am)fr0d0 Wrote: (September 29, 2009 at 4:10 am)solarwave Wrote: Gods reacts to our prays so it makes a difference (im researching an essay on this at the moment actually  )
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
September 29, 2009 at 10:16 am
How many well-substantiated facts, irreconcilable with a belief, does it take to prove a belief false?
I believe the answer is, "one."
Do I hear otherwise?
And, if I don't hear otherwise, then do I hear anyone saying, "of the 50 proofs offered on this website, none are irreconcilable with any belief?"
And, if I don't hear that, then how many beliefs are proven false by these 50 proofs?
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
September 29, 2009 at 12:36 pm
(September 29, 2009 at 6:41 am)Retorth Wrote: If god is perfect, why can't he restore sight for the blind, restore hearing for the deaf or provide limbs for those in loss? What is so hard about it?
Thats my point, He can and does (well I havn't heard of limbs being created but I also havn't looked into it ether).
(September 29, 2009 at 7:18 am)leo-rcc Wrote: I only need 5 words: Google Templeton Foundation prayer study
So if you test God and He doesn't come down to our level then it means He isn't real? Prayer isn't magic that you call on whenever you want, its a persons (Gods) choice.
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
September 29, 2009 at 12:41 pm
(September 29, 2009 at 12:36 pm)solarwave Wrote: (September 29, 2009 at 6:41 am)Retorth Wrote: If god is perfect, why can't he restore sight for the blind, restore hearing for the deaf or provide limbs for those in loss? What is so hard about it?
Thats my point, He can and does (well I havn't heard of limbs being created but I also havn't looked into it ether).
(September 29, 2009 at 7:18 am)leo-rcc Wrote: I only need 5 words: Google Templeton Foundation prayer study
So if you test God and He doesn't come down to our level then it means He isn't real? Prayer isn't magic that you call on whenever you want, its a persons (Gods) choice.
2 assertions, no evidence for either. Next. ![[Image: goodmorning.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=rationalia.com%2Fz%2Fgoodmorning.gif)
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
September 29, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Because everything you believe is based on evidence?
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
September 29, 2009 at 1:30 pm
That's why you "believe" in something, isn't it?
If there is no evidence, its called "faith".
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
September 29, 2009 at 2:31 pm
It depends what you mean by evidence. I was talking about scientific data just then. Of course it can mean a reason to believe or from experience.
My point was that even though I dont have evidence to show you I also don't have any reason to lie about it so shouldn't the fact I claim to have been around healings not possible by placebo possibly make you think?
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
September 29, 2009 at 2:37 pm
No because you do nothing to back your statements up. You want to make a case for the power of prayer? Go ahead. But it will take more than some unverifiable assertions.
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
September 29, 2009 at 3:00 pm
So ether im lying or am hugly wrong about something I have seen with my own eyes more than once?
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