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Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
#61
RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
I reject your testimony, Drich, as it is not scripturally sound.

Everyone, open your Bibles to Luke chapter 16 and read along with me (bold emphasis added):

Quote:Luke 16:19-31 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

So what have we learned here about our loving Lord?

Partly, this is a parable about the torments of Hell but it also has a clear message: the only warning we shall receive is from the scriptures. "They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them."

The rich man begs for the kind of warning you claim to have received and our Lord, through this parable, makes it clear there shall be no such warnings. If you are not persuaded by scripture, you will not be persuaded by the testimony of the dead and it shall not be allowed.

Do you dare question the words of Jesus? Are you some sort of special exception to the rules set by our Holy scripture?

Dumb ass phony Christian!
"You don't need facts when you got Jesus." -Pastor Deacon Fred, Landover Baptist Church

™: True Christian is a Trademark of the Landover Baptist Church. I have no affiliation with this fine group of True Christians ™ because I can't afford their tithing requirements but would like to be. Maybe someday the Lord will bless me with enough riches that I am able to. 

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#62
RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
[quote='Borunel' pid='359404' dateline='1352225037']
[quote]Sorry Drich, I initially thought that you were starting a discussion thread but I think this has degenerated into or perhaps always was an attempt at evangelism.[/quote]Aww. what happened?did you reach the end of Psychology 201? Or did you simply think that i would run from any structured scrutiny?

[quote]I'm certain that you just had a dream, I'm not sure how you can gain any sort of comfort or joy from dreaming that you had been in the presence of an entity that wants you to act in a particular way or he'll burn you, but whatever floats your boat matey.[/quote]It's Not just me champ.

[quote]No I didn't - I meant do you think its healthy to feel that you have to be good (or whatever) otherwise you will be punished eternally by someone who is constantly perving over your shoulder? The case is that you ought to be good to the best standards of (humanity/society) simply because it is the right thing to do whether anyone is watching or not.[/quote]Asked and answered.
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#63
RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
So, you had this dream as an atheist? How very narcissistic of a situation here, when the almighty creator of everything decides to randomly show himself, to a non-believer no less!
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The feeble mind will pray to god, the feeble mind will fall.
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#64
RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
(November 7, 2012 at 3:44 am)Killman Wrote: So, you had this dream as an atheist? How very narcissistic of a situation here, when the almighty creator of everything decides to randomly show himself, to a non-believer no less!

wouldn't be the first time.
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#65
RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
LOL, yeah, it would.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#66
RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
Actually I once believed that I WAS God and Jesus. And for 8 weeks.

I was hospitalized and diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder experiencing acute delusional mania by the way.

And I also believed that I was Satan, an alien, and I believed the radio was talking to me (not schizophrenia because I was hearing something that was actually there, I was just interpreting it in a very delusional way) and I believe that I could move car traffic with my mind.

I also believed that other people were Jesus/God too.

Funny that the only time I've ever believed in anything remotely religious is when I was completely insane eh?
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#67
RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
The Mind is good at making up stuff and making it feel real. It was a dream (real a bad hallucination) Drich.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
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#68
RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
I haven't read the whole thread (been gone for a few days) but there are a couple things I would like to point out:
1. Sleep paralysis
2. How can you go to judgement without dying?
3. If you were an atheist, you were clearly not A/S/King for god, so how did you see Jesus?

Also, did Jesus look like he does in paintings (i.e. white) or did he look like this?
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#69
RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
(November 7, 2012 at 11:39 am)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: Funny that the only time I've ever believed in anything remotely religious is when I was completely insane eh?

I'm sure I've mentioned before about a bloke of our former acquaintance who sincerely believed that Avril Lavigne was sending him secret messages in the titles of her songs; that people were being replaced by identical doubles and following him around; that he was Tony Blair's brother (he wasn't); and that there was an invisible dog, wearing a top hat, that people would keep hiding from him. I swear I'm not making any of this up. He was also a devout churchgoer, baptist if I remember correctly, but also a committed member of a spiritualist church and believed he had the power of healing at a touch. Oddly enough, after he'd spent some time in rehab to dry himself out somewhat of his chronic alcoholism, these things went away. They came back with a vengeance when he jumped off the wagon again.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#70
RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
'Religion fills a much needed gap'.
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