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The Effect of College Education On the Presidential Election
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RE: The Effect of College Education On the Presidential Election
(November 9, 2012 at 10:40 pm)Justtristo Wrote: Although I tend to be skeptical of the view that voters with a college education are any more rational and sensible on average than those without college educations. In Australia for example, the Greens vote and percentage of people with a university education are closely correlated. Essentially the higher the number of people with a university education, higher the Greens vote.

However a University undergraduate degree in Australia is broadly similar to a Masters in the United States.

For serious? Explain please, this is of high relevance and importance to me.
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RE: The Effect of College Education On the Presidential Election
(November 10, 2012 at 2:26 am)Stue Denim Wrote:
(November 9, 2012 at 10:40 pm)Justtristo Wrote: Although I tend to be skeptical of the view that voters with a college education are any more rational and sensible on average than those without college educations. In Australia for example, the Greens vote and percentage of people with a university education are closely correlated. Essentially the higher the number of people with a university education, higher the Greens vote.

However a University undergraduate degree in Australia is broadly similar to a Masters in the United States.

For serious? Explain please, this is of high relevance and importance to me.


Australia's education system is based on the British Model, although don't have a version of the General Certificate for Education given out at Year 10 or roughly equivalent. Instead we just have our version of the British O-Levels which are the Higher School Certificates in Year 12.

What I have heard Americans broadly agree that last two years of secondary school in Britain (Sixth Form) is equivalent to first 2 years of college there. This is because university degree programs in Britain and Australia are quite specialized from first year, which they aren't in the United States. While in the United States you don't need to think choosing the area they want to study in until 2nd year. Here in Australia you need to study the right subjects in Year 11 and 12, so you can enter the study area of your choice when you first start University.

Also in America if you want to become a lawyer you have study a "Pre-Law" four year undergraduate degree and then do a Law Masters degree on top of that. In Britain and Australia you normally just do a Law Undergraduate Degree. The same goes if you want to study medicine and become a doctor there, study a per-med undergraduate degree and then do a post-graduate medical degree.
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The Effect of College Education On the Presidential Election
(November 10, 2012 at 3:59 am)Justtristo Wrote: Also in America if you want to become a lawyer you have study a "Pre-Law" four year undergraduate degree and then do a Law Masters degree on top of that. In Britain and Australia you normally just do a Law Undergraduate Degree. The same goes if you want to study medicine and become a doctor there, study a per-med undergraduate degree and then do a post-graduate medical degree.

Not true. Many universities and colleges do have pre-law programs, however, it is not a prerequisite for going to law school. It's all about taking the LSTATs, an SAT type test that demonstrates one's supposed ability to perform well in law school. I've kicked around the idea of going to law school with my history degree, and I know several people who have attended law school without majoring in pre-law in undergrad, namely international affairs, history, and even one who has a BS (though I forget the field) who went on to law school.
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RE: The Effect of College Education On the Presidential Election
(November 10, 2012 at 8:32 am)festive1 Wrote:
(November 10, 2012 at 3:59 am)Justtristo Wrote: Also in America if you want to become a lawyer you have study a "Pre-Law" four year undergraduate degree and then do a Law Masters degree on top of that. In Britain and Australia you normally just do a Law Undergraduate Degree. The same goes if you want to study medicine and become a doctor there, study a per-med undergraduate degree and then do a post-graduate medical degree.

Not true. Many universities and colleges do have pre-law programs, however, it is not a prerequisite for going to law school. It's all about taking the LSTATs, an SAT type test that demonstrates one's supposed ability to perform well in law school. I've kicked around the idea of going to law school with my history degree, and I know several people who have attended law school without majoring in pre-law in undergrad, namely international affairs, history, and even one who has a BS (though I forget the field) who went on to law school.

I stand corrected.
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