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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
October 2, 2009 at 11:27 am
So God humped Eve! Oohhhh I get it now thanks for clearing that up Rhizo lol.
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
October 2, 2009 at 9:49 pm
(September 30, 2009 at 7:56 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Fr0d0,
It is a habit that I have and allows people to easily see who wrote what. On these forums it is mostly useless but can have a use when quoting multiple people. If I could, I would indent the first line of the paragraph too. So, name to who I am speaking at the top, indent first line, and sign my work are all deeply ingrained in me. Ok, you know what bugs me? Chatpilot doesn't put a space after his periods! Two spaces after is retarded to me too but at least it doesn't actively bug me like zero spaces.
hee hee,
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Haha, well, I usually like to dot my sentences with commas, and each of my sentences end with 2 spaces after the period. Just a habit, but 0 spaces, yes, very annoying to think of.
I don't sign at all, except this one time.
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
October 3, 2009 at 1:51 am
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(October 1, 2009 at 4:16 pm)solarwave Wrote: Free will can still be found in doing Gods will. Isn't a huge act of free will to give it up for another? Its my free choice to follow God. Also if Christ died for me then is giving up a bit of my free will such a terrible thing compared.
I'm having an exchange with fr0d0 about this in the "Evidence!" thread coincidentally, and that (not the exchange but the idea of "free will" with regards to god) is something I find odd.
You think you have free will to do gods will but that is because you are doing something that he wants you to do so it "works out nicely", so to speak. However, if god does indeed give us free will, I should have the right to choose not to do his will if I so desire. If he condemns me for not doing his will then that is not free will.
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
October 3, 2009 at 8:35 am
(October 3, 2009 at 1:51 am)Retorth Wrote: (October 1, 2009 at 4:16 pm)solarwave Wrote: Free will can still be found in doing Gods will. Isn't a huge act of free will to give it up for another? Its my free choice to follow God. Also if Christ died for me then is giving up a bit of my free will such a terrible thing compared.
I'm having an exchange with fr0d0 about this in the "Evidence!" thread coincidentally, and that (not the exchange but the idea of "free will" with regards to god) is something I find odd.
You think you have free will to do gods will but that is because you are doing something that he wants you to do so it "works out nicely", so to speak. However, if god does indeed give us free will, I should have the right to choose not to do his will if I so desire. If he condemns me for not doing his will then that is not free will.
And of course nothing pisses god off more than us knowing things, we got kicked out of his garden for that.
If we are not allowed knowledge how can we make a considered desicion?
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
October 3, 2009 at 9:58 am
(October 3, 2009 at 8:35 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: And of course nothing pisses god off more than us knowing things, we got kicked out of his garden for that.
Indeed. And all Adam and Eve wanted were some nice clothes. =\
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
October 3, 2009 at 11:42 am
(October 3, 2009 at 9:58 am)Retorth Wrote: (October 3, 2009 at 8:35 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: And of course nothing pisses god off more than us knowing things, we got kicked out of his garden for that.
Indeed. And all Adam and Eve wanted were some nice clothes. =\
Haha true. Since god knows everything though, and everything to come for eternity, then he shouldn't get mad at anything we do, right? If he has a plan for everyone, then he knew all of these religions would come to be as well as atheism.
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
October 3, 2009 at 12:12 pm
(October 3, 2009 at 11:42 am)littlegrimlin1 Wrote: (October 3, 2009 at 9:58 am)Retorth Wrote: (October 3, 2009 at 8:35 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: And of course nothing pisses god off more than us knowing things, we got kicked out of his garden for that.
Indeed. And all Adam and Eve wanted were some nice clothes. =\
Haha true. Since god knows everything though, and everything to come for eternity, then he shouldn't get mad at anything we do, right? If he has a plan for everyone, then he knew all of these religions would come to be as well as atheism.
It is strange that he, of all people, could be "caught by surprise" And we have people claiming to be psychics in today's society. How ironic!
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
October 3, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Retorth I have had this discussion on several occasions on different threads throughout this website. The idea of free will being God given is in question when that free will only applies to doing His will. Anything else is sinful and since it is not by works but rather by faith in Christ that we are supposedly saved, you can be the nicest person on earth and still be condemned to hell by simply denying the existence of god or refusing to submit your will to him.
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
October 3, 2009 at 12:30 pm
(October 3, 2009 at 12:28 pm)chatpilot Wrote: Retorth I have had this discussion on several occasions on different threads throughout this website. The idea of free will being God given is in question when that free will only applies to doing His will. Anything else is sinful and since it is not by works but rather by faith in Christ that we are supposedly saved, you can be the nicest person on earth and still be condemned to hell by simply denying the existence of god or refusing to submit your will to him.
It really is a damn shame init...
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RE: 50 Simple Proofs, God is Imaginary
October 3, 2009 at 3:13 pm
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(October 3, 2009 at 1:51 am)Retorth Wrote: And of course nothing pisses god off more than us knowing things, we got kicked out of his garden for that.
If we are not allowed knowledge how can we make a considered desicion?
You're taking it both ways there.
1. God doesn't like that we know things.
2. We don't know things because God doesn't allow us to.
Which is it?
God kicked Adam and Eve out of the garden because they had knowledge of good and evil. Not because he stopped them having that knowledge.
They suddenly couldn't look at each others naked bodies and stop themselves thinking it was bad so they demanded clothes.
Believing in God is ultimately going back into the garden.
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