Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study

[Cyberman]

Ten stabbings in one place in one year? And that doesn't make it notorious for it? The antisocial behaviour rate in my town has shot up in recent years, due to the relaxed drinking laws, yet I could count the number of stabbings - in fact, any serious crime - on the fingers of Captain Hook's bad hand.

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Ten stabbings in one person, of which nine in the atheist' face....so christians can recognize the bastard!

[Cyberman]

Quick question, if I may - if the OT is so out of kilter with xtian NT beliefs, why not scrap it altogether? It's a bit like running Windows 7 and Windows 95 at the same time; there's bound to be conflicts.

It won't matter if they're both infected with too many viruses to count.

Granted there'd be conflicts anyway, with reality as much as anything else. Plus, as you say, there's nothing to stop the viruses getting in and causing no end of havoc.

[YahwehIsTheWay]

I agree we should seek our bibles for advice. But you need to look at the word of God as a whole to get the character of God.

You know it's sissy, pansy Christians like you that ruin it for us all.

Sure, the Lord makes exceptions to His rules all the time in the Bible but that doesn't mean the rules aren't clear. He tells us, "thou shalt not kill" but also ordered multiple genocides as His Chosen cut a bloody path to the promised land. Clearly, He can change His laws on a whim, like a Don saying, "ain't nobody gettin whacked unless I says so", but that doesn't mean Christians have license to do the same.

If the Lord decided to spare David and kill his kid instead, that's His prerogative. Meanwhile, we as Christians should demand laws on the books that call for disobedient children to be stoned to death in the public square and Red Lobster to be shut down as a den of sin and iniquity. No shell fish! They shall ever be an abomination.

Praise the sweet name of Jesus.

[Darkstar]

Hi,

just to clear up the story a little, the valley is not notorious for stabbings

I just got that impression when you said:

The Valley was known as the rough end of town

I hope you don't try to use statistics to reason away my experience. Statistic won't be in your favour anyway.

Won't they? Did he say he was stabbed on that day, or at some other time?
Either way, statistics aren't in anyone's favor for the lottery either. Are all lottery wins therefore acts of god?

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Praise the sweet name of Jesus.

Amen.

[Darkstar]

[FutureAndAHope]

Quick question, if I may - if the OT is so out of kilter with xtian NT beliefs, why not scrap it altogether? It's a bit like running Windows 7 and Windows 95 at the same time; there's bound to be conflicts.

The OT was designed to produce a nation that displayed God's character, to keep the knowledge of God alive. Strong laws were enforced to try to prevent regression back to the pagan customs that were prevalent, including sexual passion, child blood sacrifice, and the like. Prophets of God were sent to warn people if they were moving away from God's idea of society, and if they replaced God with idols God would destroy the idol worship and repopulate the land. He purified the land. The whole of the blood sacrifice was a visual picture of the fact God required a sacrifice, the sacrifice was his own son, God came in the flesh, took upon himself our sin, and was punished for it in our place. Now as a Christian it is not Gods desire to maintain the sacrifices any more, the need for a nation to preserve the knowledge of God is no more needed. The bible is preserved, God now has expended salvation to all men. Not that he has ever kept me from faith, but salvation used to be by becoming a Jew and obeying the law. But as I said the law was only designed to build society, Christianity is not a country. It is not wrong to use the OT to know how God wants us to live our lives but it is wrong to try inflict judgment on the every day person.

Jesus said one thing regarding the law, he said "God wants mercy, not sacrifice", God is a god of mercy, if you start hearing too much judgment, even from me, too much hell fire, too much you are all sinners, that is not mercy it is judgment. God is merciful. The bible says Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. To understand Gods character you need to understand the NT, Jesus, and the apostles, the OT is still used, but not the laws.

[Cato]

just to clear up the story a little, the valley is not notorious for stabbings, if you did a police report you might find there were 10 in one year. I used to meet heaps of people in the valley, and none of them had been stabbed. It was only on the day that God asked me "How would I like to be stabbed?", that I met a man who had infact been stabbed earlier in his life. He was the first person I met on that day. So the day God asked me "How would I like to be stabbed", the first person I met fitted what he had asked me, he had been stabbed. I hope you don't try to use statistics to reason away my experience. Statistic won't be in your favour anyway.

The fact is this sort of thing happens all the time to me. Not hearing God's voice, but spiritual experiences. God did actually tell me a person I could marry using a voice, and it worked out great, we are happily married with a kid.

But?!?!? YOU, never got stabbed. How in the flying fuck do you prove god because a voice asked if you would like to get stabbed, but another takes the punishment without your involvement.

It's the same as you saying:
- god said "how would you like to eat a pancake"
- You didn't eat a pancake, but 50 people at a local restaurant did.
- Therefore god.

Dolt!

[FutureAndAHope]

Either way, statistics aren't in anyone's favor for the lottery either. Are all lottery wins therefore acts of god?

My wife won't let me, but I want to buy lottery tickets. Might sound insane, but I am sure give how many things I have seen God do in manipulation random events, that I am sure I could win.