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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 7:52 am
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(January 17, 2013 at 12:19 am)catfish Wrote: (January 17, 2013 at 12:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: Nice try.
He meant that believers often do horrible things and call them moral. But you knew that didn't you?
That is taking things out of context. He was not saying hideous acts are moral. Dumb ass.
LOL @ the dumbass claiming "out of context"!!!
See if you can spot the pattern here.
A theist claims an atheist takes things "out of context" when they don't agree with the other's interpretation...
An Atheist claims an a theist takes things "out of context" when they don't agree with the other's interpretation...
Fucking hypocrites... 
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(January 17, 2013 at 12:05 am)Rhythm Wrote: That someone might have a solid grasp of the concept (and a flair for communicating it). Some acts are void of morality - say, taking a piss. Others are invested with moral value, rightly or wrongly, positive or negative, and these we call "moral acts". Acts with moral or immoral consequence.
You fucking said it, immoral or moral...
Care to explain how something you would consider "wrong" or "negative" could be considered "moral"???
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Hey jackass,
This is not a label thing, this is a speces flaw issue we are talking about.
The cruelty humans have inflicted on each other has been done in the name of morality.
Burning witches for example, they did that thinking they were truly doing the right thing by saving the community from evil.
The 9/11 hijackers also, thought they were truly doing the right thing by murdering 3000 people because we were a threat to Islam and it was their moral duty to protect Islam.
That is what Hitchens meant and you damned well know it so do not try spin it.
Humans can truly believe a false claim and truly believe they are moral in protecting that falsehood. Otherwise the 19 hijackers really are moral. We know they are not, but from their point of view they think they were doing the noble thing.
It is the same reason Kamakasis slamed planes onto American ships in WW2. And why they were so dedicated to the Empire that when we got to the main land many committed suicide, which to them was the honorable thing, rather than surrender.
Many Japanese were so deeply indoctrinated they thought we would turn them into slaves and rape them. Truly believing that falsehood was on par with worship to the point suicide in their minds was the only right thing to do.
HUMANS CAN be dedicated to a falsehood and truly think they are being moral in defending that falsehood and do very horrible things to others thinking they are being moral.
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 8:27 am
Ummm WHY does it HAVE to be a white horse?? Can't it be a Bay, or Grey?
 Just asking.
Only White Horse I am aware of belongs to DEATH
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 9:20 am
Why cant it be a camel?
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 9:25 am
Or a donkey or an Ass/ Mule??
What's with the whole "White Charger" ...wait, ... are we getting mythologies mixed up here??
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 9:36 am
(January 17, 2013 at 9:25 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Or a donkey or an Ass/ Mule??
What's with the whole "White Charger" ...wait, ... are we getting mythologies mixed up here??
Well Rush Limbaugh wasn't born back then so it cant be an ass.
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 9:56 am
catfish Wrote:No, what has happened here is that you have had your thought processes dicatated to you. I will NOT call an immoral act moral while you seem to have no problem being one of the sheeple...
"freethinker" - one of the biggest lies sold to fucktards everywhere...
Let me see if I can spell this out for you, fishy...
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/moral
Quote:a : of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior : ethical <moral judgments>
b : expressing or teaching a conception of right behavior <a moral poem>
c : conforming to a standard of right behavior
d : sanctioned by or operative on one's conscience or ethical judgment <a moral obligation>
e : capable of right and wrong action <a moral agent>
You seem to think that the only definition of 'moral' is defintion C, but as you can see, the definition Rhythm has been trying to say to you is also accurate. So, he is correct in saying that an immoral act is a moral one in that an immoral act relates to the principles of right and wrong.
(BTW, in the future you might want to refrain from the insults until you are certain that you are right. It makes you look like a fucking idiot.)
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 10:30 am
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(January 17, 2013 at 9:36 am)Brian37 Wrote: (January 17, 2013 at 9:25 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Or a donkey or an Ass/ Mule??
What's with the whole "White Charger" ...wait, ... are we getting mythologies mixed up here??
Well Rush Limbaugh wasn't born back then so it cant be an ass.
How about an ARse? As in rectum?
 Or should that be "On his Arse"?
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 10:37 am
(January 17, 2013 at 10:30 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (January 17, 2013 at 9:36 am)Brian37 Wrote: Well Rush Limbaugh wasn't born back then so it cant be an ass.
How about an ARse? As in rectum?
Or should that be "On his Arse"?
To quote "Wane's World" the movie, "Ass sphincter says what".
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 10:39 am
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'Song of the Sausage creature'
http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html
Now why can't deities ride motorcycles??
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RE: Will Jesus return on a white horse?
January 17, 2013 at 7:12 pm
(January 17, 2013 at 9:56 am)Faith No More Wrote: catfish Wrote:No, what has happened here is that you have had your thought processes dicatated to you. I will NOT call an immoral act moral while you seem to have no problem being one of the sheeple...
"freethinker" - one of the biggest lies sold to fucktards everywhere...
Let me see if I can spell this out for you, fishy...
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/moral
Quote:a : of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior : ethical <moral judgments>
b : expressing or teaching a conception of right behavior <a moral poem>
c : conforming to a standard of right behavior
d : sanctioned by or operative on one's conscience or ethical judgment <a moral obligation>
e : capable of right and wrong action <a moral agent>
You seem to think that the only definition of 'moral' is defintion C, but as you can see, the definition Rhythm has been trying to say to you is also accurate. So, he is correct in saying that an immoral act is a moral one in that an immoral act relates to the principles of right and wrong.
(BTW, in the future you might want to refrain from the insults until you are certain that you are right. It makes you look like a fucking idiot.)
You posted a definition that is clear about (a) being a "moral judgement".
Rhythm told me to google "moral act" and do you know what the first hit was? The fucking Catholic Encyclopedia. Like I would ever consider that an authority. In fact, the first page was dominated by Catholic websites.
According the the Catholics, taking a piss is a "moral act"...
"A human act. One performed with knowledge and free will. It is called a moral act because it is always either morally good or bad. Every consciously deliberate action is therefore a moral act. "
I propose we just call those things "righteous acts", ok?
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