What things are bad in Islam?

[ThatMuslimGuy]

Yes. Whats your objection. She was a Consenting Adult.

This is obviously some strange usage of the word 'Adult' that I've previously been unaware of

Islamically you become an Adult when you hit puberty and are mentally old enough.
Aisha(RA) had her own house at the age of 9 so she was mentally old enough.
And she had undergone puberty.

A person in the 7th century being classified as an adult is a different age than being classified by most 21st century governments where it ranges from 16-18

[Kane]

I rest my case

you my friend need to look at Islam from another point of view

take sometime to do so and tell me what you think when you're done

[ThatMuslimGuy]

I rest my case

you my friend need to look at Islam from another point of view

take sometime to do so and tell me what you think when you're done

Ok will do :-)
What would this other point of view be?

[Darwinian]

This is obviously some strange usage of the word 'Adult' that I've previously been unaware of

Islamically you become an Adult when you hit puberty and are mentally old enough.
Aisha(RA) had her own house at the age of 9 so she was mentally old enough.
And she had undergone puberty.

A person in the 7th century being classified as an adult is a different age than being classified by most 21st century governments where it ranges from 16-18

So in Islam, if a man wanted to have his way with a 9 year old child, all he would have to do is make sure that she has started puberty and buy her a house of some sort and there you go, she's suddenly an adult?

Really?

[Kane]

I rest my case

you my friend need to look at Islam from another point of view

take sometime to do so and tell me what you think when you're done

Ok will do :-)
What would this other point of view be?

Just keep your holy look at it away

study it as you study the history of ancient Egypt

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[ThatMuslimGuy]

Islamically you become an Adult when you hit puberty and are mentally old enough.
Aisha(RA) had her own house at the age of 9 so she was mentally old enough.
And she had undergone puberty.

A person in the 7th century being classified as an adult is a different age than being classified by most 21st century governments where it ranges from 16-18

So in Islam, if a man wanted to have his way with a 9 year old child, all he would have to do is make sure that she has started puberty and buy her a house of some sort and there you go, she's suddenly an adult?

Really?

For a man to marry anyone:
She must have undergone puberty.
Must be mentally mature.
She must be consenting.

The pillars of marriage are three:

1. The couple must be free from any legal prevention to their being able to marry one another, like a close relationship or fosterage.

2. The woman must have the approval of her guardian.

3. There must be an offer and acceptance.

The conditions of marriage are four:

1. The presence of the couple

2. Their approval

3. The presence of the woman’s guardian

4. Two male, Muslim witnesses

And other rules such as Mahr (bridal gift)

[Minimalist]

She must be consenting.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/10/...-says-mom/

A 13-year-old Yemeni child bride who bled to death shortly after marriage was tied down and forced to have sex by her husband, according to interviews with the child's mother, police and medical reports.

The girl's mother, Nijma Ahmed, 50, told the Associated Press that before her daughter lost consciousness, she said that her husband had tied her up and forced himself on her. "She looked like she was butchered," she said about her daughter's injuries.

Apparently that consent thingy is somewhat in the eye of the beholder, huh?

[Waratah]

So in Islam, if a man wanted to have his way with a 9 year old child, all he would have to do is make sure that she has started puberty and buy her a house of some sort and there you go, she's suddenly an adult?

Really?

For a man to marry anyone:
She must have undergone puberty.
Must be mentally mature.
She must be consenting.

The pillars of marriage are three:

1. The couple must be free from any legal prevention to their being able to marry one another, like a close relationship or fosterage.

2. The woman must have the approval of her guardian.

3. There must be an offer and acceptance.

The conditions of marriage are four:

1. The presence of the couple

2. Their approval

3. The presence of the woman’s guardian

4. Two male, Muslim witnesses

And other rules such as Mahr (bridal gift)

This is what can piss me off about religion, is the blatant sexism.

[fr0d0]

2. The woman must have the approval of her guardian.

Mohammed was an idol. Think Jimmy Saville. x10

[ThatMuslimGuy]

The role of the gaurdian is to protect the Women. In pre-islamic times men just married women against there will. Men could inherit there brother wives etc. Islam came to stop this. And introduced the system of the Gaurdian. The Gaurdian has to have the best interests of the girl at heart and is there to protect her from anything that could harm her. If he objects to the marriage and provides no reason for it then she can still get married. The gaurdian isn't there to hamper the women but to protect her.