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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 22, 2013 at 11:52 pm
(January 22, 2013 at 11:50 pm)Ryantology Wrote: If condemnation in hell is not meant to be eternal, there will surely be a wealth of information demonstrating that there is certainly a finite length of time souls spend in hell and exactly what happens to them when this finite period is satisfied. And you can, of course, supply this information.
Hebrews 12:6-8
King James Version (KJV)
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 22, 2013 at 11:54 pm
(January 22, 2013 at 11:43 pm)catfish Wrote: LOL, I'm not dumb enough to claim that something pertaining to an age is eternal, YOU are...
http://what-the-hell-is-hell.com/2010/et...testament/
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Finally some support to your claim, thanks for that. I'm going to go out on a limb and ask if there's any evidence to your supposition with regards to actual greek linguists? I'd be very much interested in knowing, and will seek this out myself, but if you have any more links I'd appreciate it.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 22, 2013 at 11:54 pm
Besides that, "hell" is a pagan doctrine based upon the Greek myth of Tartarus...
As a cherrypicker, I'm allowed to reject that which is not "good"...
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 22, 2013 at 11:56 pm
I didn't ask for evidence that God endorses child abuse.
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 22, 2013 at 11:58 pm
You are out of your league brother, give it a rest...
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 23, 2013 at 12:12 am
I'm sorry, perhaps I missed the part where you provided answers to my queries.
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 23, 2013 at 12:25 am
Like I said, you're out of your league. So much so that that you can't even recognise the answer to your question so I'll spell it out nice and slow for you, mmm'kay?
(January 22, 2013 at 11:52 pm)catfish Wrote: (January 22, 2013 at 11:50 pm)Ryantology Wrote: If condemnation in hell is not meant to be eternal, there will surely be a wealth of information demonstrating that there is certainly a finite length of time souls spend in hell and exactly what happens to them when this finite period is satisfied. And you can, of course, supply this information.
Hebrews 12:6-8
King James Version (KJV)
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
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What happens to them you asked?
According to the bible, God receives them. If you need help in understanding this simple concept, I'll be happy to teach you as I would a child...
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 23, 2013 at 12:34 am
That is a most fascinating way of interpreting that passage, as it is in no way evident that it is referring to the punishment meted out to those who do not receive salvation. In context with surrounding parts of that chapter, it appears to be an admonition to the faithful, not a description of what becomes of the damned.
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 23, 2013 at 12:45 am
(January 23, 2013 at 12:34 am)Ryantology Wrote: That is a most fascinating way of interpreting that passage, as it is in no way evident that it is referring to the punishment meted out to those who do not receive salvation. In context with surrounding parts of that chapter, it appears to be an admonition to the faithful, not a description of what becomes of the damned.
Here's a verse that even you will have trouble twisting the meaning of...
1 Corinthians 15:22
King James Version (KJV)
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Do you have your own definition of "all", or shall we just say that everyone gets saved and end this before you try telling me that all doesn't mean all?
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RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 23, 2013 at 1:08 am
"All" is highly subject to context, and in this case, context is provided by 'in Christ'. Where is your proof that this is intended to cover even those condemned to hell, especially when what dooms one to hell is not being 'in Christ'?
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