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God is above conventional reason
RE: God is above conventional reason
Hence your disbelief. Same reference, different conclusion. I've seen and discussed at length, here and elsewhere, many supposed inconsistencies and have still to find just one.
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RE: God is above conventional reason
Quote:It would have been illogical for God to have imparted such understanding. <-- that would limit it to a single timeframe in human history.

More logical or less logical than it was for God, creator of the entire world and all the people in it, to appear to a tiny, insignificant group of them, alone, for entirety of history, never once appearing to any other peoples anywhere else in the world and telling them any of the things which, presumably, all of humanity needed to know?
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RE: God is above conventional reason
(February 18, 2013 at 4:20 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Hence your disbelief. Same reference, different conclusion. I've seen and discussed at length, here and elsewhere, many supposed inconsistencies and have still to find just one.

Ok, heres an easy one:

The children of adam and eve were sent out to be fruitful and multiply.

Who, exactly,did they multiply with?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -Einstein
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RE: God is above conventional reason
You mean you have yet to acknowledge one
If you believe it, question it. If you question it, get an answer. If you have an answer, does that answer satisfy reality? Does it satisfy you? Probably not. For no one else will agree with you, not really.
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RE: God is above conventional reason
(February 18, 2013 at 9:40 am)fr0d0 Wrote: [quote='Ryantology' pid='403048' dateline='1361187294']
I don't recall any mention of God being outside of time and space, that he created time, anywhere in the Bible.

1st sentence. In the beginning I am. (Literal translation). God = I am. Always present/timeless/omnipresent/the alpha and the omega.




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Sorry - but that is an interpretation

IT may as well mean that the god was the first that that existed in ETERNAL time and space - as well
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RE: God is above conventional reason
Now, to correct myself:

God isn't above conventional reason.

Also, there is no God.
ronedee Wrote:Science doesn't have a good explaination for water

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RE: God is above conventional reason
(February 18, 2013 at 3:16 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: That's the process. You scrutinise it and test it for consistency. Having understood what it means you can move to trust it to be true. Still you don't believe, as belief is acting upon your trust.

Have you applied this same level of scrutiny to the Quran and the Book of Mormon? The Hindu Vedas and L Ron Hubbards Dianetics?
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RE: God is above conventional reason
Or the Discworld series, which has more confirmed gods than all conventional holy books combined?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: God is above conventional reason
(February 18, 2013 at 5:28 pm)ThomM Wrote: Sorry - but that is an interpretation
No it is not. It's a literal translation. As plain and precise as you'll get

(February 18, 2013 at 5:53 pm)Zone Wrote: Have you applied this same level of scrutiny to the Quran and the Book of Mormon? The Hindu Vedas and L Ron Hubbards Dianetics?
Absolutely and always

(February 18, 2013 at 4:54 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: The children of adam and eve were sent out to be fruitful and multiply.

Who, exactly,did they multiply with?
You've been with the fundies too long
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RE: God is above conventional reason
(February 18, 2013 at 6:12 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(February 18, 2013 at 5:28 pm)ThomM Wrote: Sorry - but that is an interpretation
No it is not. It's a literal translation. As plain and precise as you'll get

That's what the guy who read the same verse as you did but created a whole 'nother meaning said.
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