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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
February 20, 2013 at 5:12 pm
(February 20, 2013 at 4:21 pm)AtlasS Wrote: But being just, he can't judge those people before "they" act. It's not like humans are forced, we act by our free will but god knows the outcome.
By god knowing the outcome, it necessarily follows that we DO NOT have free will. Free will implies that god could not know the outcome thereby proving his lack of omniscience and by extension, his very existence.
So you can have it one way or the other. Either we have free will and god does not exist, or we live predetermined lives and god is a cruel kid with a magnifying glass.
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
February 20, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Why can't science detect angels and demons?
Because they don't exist.
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
February 20, 2013 at 7:41 pm
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(February 20, 2013 at 5:12 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: (February 20, 2013 at 4:21 pm)AtlasS Wrote: But being just, he can't judge those people before "they" act. It's not like humans are forced, we act by our free will but god knows the outcome.
By god knowing the outcome, it necessarily follows that we DO NOT have free will. Free will implies that god could not know the outcome thereby proving his lack of omniscience and by extension, his very existence.
So you can have it one way or the other. Either we have free will and god does not exist, or we live predetermined lives and god is a cruel kid with a magnifying glass.
you mean you are not self willed and do what you want?
(February 20, 2013 at 6:41 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
Because they don't exist.
what of hitler, stalin, mao, pol pot, john gacy, etc.
the demons live among us.
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
February 20, 2013 at 7:49 pm
They were human, I assure you.
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
February 20, 2013 at 7:51 pm
(February 20, 2013 at 7:41 pm)junkyardboy Wrote: (February 20, 2013 at 6:41 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
Because they don't exist.
what of hitler, stalin, mao, pol pot, john gacy, etc.
the demons live among us. curious...
demon = evil person?
angel = good person?
redefining much?
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
February 20, 2013 at 7:54 pm
(February 20, 2013 at 7:51 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (February 20, 2013 at 7:41 pm)junkyardboy Wrote: what of hitler, stalin, mao, pol pot, john gacy, etc.
the demons live among us. curious...
demon = evil person?
angel = good person?
redefining much?
1/3 of the angels followed satan in the rebellion
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
February 20, 2013 at 7:56 pm
(February 20, 2013 at 7:41 pm)junkyardboy Wrote: what of hitler, stalin, mao, pol pot, john gacy, etc.
the demons live among us.
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and John Gacy were men. Nothing more. They were raised Catholic for the most part. Even Pol Pot attended Catholic schools. Mao was the only one without a lot of exposure to Christianity.
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
February 20, 2013 at 7:59 pm
(February 20, 2013 at 7:49 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: They were human, I assure you.
are you sure?
how do you know?
did you somehow personally verify that?
demons in the swine had to go somewhere
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
February 20, 2013 at 8:14 pm
Why are you so determined that Hitler and friends had to have been demons? Is it that if they were just ordinary men committing and authorising evil acts, then the same could be said of anyone? Or is there another motive?
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
February 20, 2013 at 9:02 pm
How many thread titles can we make that are logical fallacies?
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