If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?

[Angrboda]

"Shit or get off my German porn set..."

— heard in passing

[ideologue08]

It's called a STRAWMAN. You're arguing against a proposition that I didn't make. I didn't say only gay people sodomize, and yet you felt the need to argue that.

I oppose gay sex, whether you like it or not. I frankly don't care what you think about my opinions. Especially since you have nothing of value to argue with.

Not it isn't a STRAWMAN, captain capslock, because you're using the fact that a lot of gay men sodomize to persecute them, without persecuting hetereosexuals. Do you deny that you're only having a go at homosexuals for doing this?
If you included heteros, then I would be misunderstanding what you're saying, which might not happen if instead of crying strawman, you simply explained yourself.

I don't have an argument to put to you, because you haven't presented an argument, which is very odd on a forum. All you've done is say that it's icky, which is not an argument for anything.
If you don't want to argue a point, then it beggars belief why you're even here.

This thread is about homosexuals, hence me talking about homosexuals. Not too difficult to figure that one out!

Did I say it was "icky"? Captain Strawman strikes again!

You basically have absolutely no valid arguments. Building strawmen is all you seem to be doing. Total waste of time.

[Something completely different]

mo66 reads really familiar to the recently banned troll fucktard Al-fucktard

[Angrboda]

Not to derail the thread any more than I already have, but I think "CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK" would be an awesome name for our new Muslim member. (In a self-depreciating, "I can take a joke as much as the next guy," kind of way.)

(I think you can change this through the User Control Panel, if you so desire; ask a mod if not.)

[ideologue08]

mo66 reads really familiar to the recently banned troll fucktard Al-fucktard

I'm pretty sure you're spamming here. Not certain though, need to ask a mod.

[Something completely different]

I have been here for 2 months you and have been more productive here than you will ever be.



Get of your high horse and suck my german pork sausage you turd!

[Angrboda]

"Kill 'em all, and let the mods sort it out."

[Shell B]

Well they should be prevented from marrying, and prevented from adopting children, so I suppose prevented from existence makes perfect sense.

Bloody hell. That's all I've got.

[Gabriel Syme]

You are right that, due to their physical bodies, Lesbians are not nearly as effective transmitters of HIV as are gay men.

However, there is a different set of health issues which goes along with Lesbianism, though I think its probably fair to say that they are not as equally serious as HIV, for the individual or society.

Such as?

Bacterial vaginosis, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C, heavy cigarette smoking, alcohol abuse, intravenous drug use, and prostitution were present in much higher proportions among female homosexual practitioners.(ref 1)

Intravenous drug abuse was nearly six times as common in this group.(ref 2)

In one study of women who had sex only with women in the prior 12 months, 30 percent had bacterial vaginosis.(ref 3)

Bacterial vaginosis is associated with higher risk for pelvic inflammatory disease and other sexually transmitted infections. (Ref 4)

Refs: (research dates in bold if available)

Ref 1 -.Ibid., p. 347, Table 1; Susan D. Cochran, et al., "Cancer- Related Risk Indicators and Preventive Screening Behaviors Among Lesbians and Bisexual Women," American Journal of Public Health, 91(4): 591-597 (April 2001); Juliet Richters, Sara Lubowitz, et al., "HIV risks among women in contact with Sydney's gay and lesbian community," Venereology, 11(3): 35-38 (1998); Juliet Richters, Sarah Bergin, et al., "Women in Contact with the Gay and Lesbian Community: Sydney Women and Sexual Health Survey 1996 and 1998," National Centre in HIV Social Research, University of New South Wales, 1999.

Ref 2 -.Fethers, et al., p. 347 and Table 1.

Ref 3 -Barbara Berger, Shelley Kolton, et al., "Bacterial vaginosis in lesbians: a sexually transmitted disease," Clinical Infectious Diseases, 21: 1402-1405 (1995).

Ref 4 -.E. H. Koumans, et al., "Preventing adverse sequelae of Bacterial Vaginosis: a Public Health Program and Research Agenda," Sexually Transmitted Diseases, 28(5): 292-297 (May 2001); R. L. Sweet, "Gynecologic Conditions and Bacterial Vaginosis: Implications for the Non-Pregnant Patient," Infectious Diseases in Obstetrics and Gynecology, 8(3): 184-190 (2000).

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Would you care to provide evidence for this baseless assertion? Statistics in favour of nonsense like this hasn't been around since the 80's so far as I'm aware. HIV being a "gay disease" has been proven a myth by about every respectable medical institution. Google it.

Please see my posts in this thread below, for a comprehensive amount of international statistics and references which clearly demonstrate that, In the western world, male homosexuality is - by far -the main driver of HIV.

Male homosexuals are the demographic most at risk from HIV, due to both the disordered nature of homosexual 'sex' and the frequently reckless sexual behaviour in gay male communities.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-16626.html

For now, evidence of the stats I mentioned on this thread:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20526380

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/ngmH...lease.html

It's hard to be happy when there's a large percentage of the population who'd sooner spit on you than shake your hand.

I would agree, but I don't really think that is an accurate picture of a gay persons daily life, is it?

I'm not claiming prejudice doesn't exist, but there is no widespread hatred or even dislike of gay people.

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but are you saying that gay babies should be aborted? That is beyond bigotry, that's genocide.

Of course not, as a Catholic I find abortion repugnant.

I was merely pointing out that some people would, given (as stated) some people will abort because their baby has a minor aesthetic defect, even one which can be easily fixed by surgery (e.g. cleft pallete).

[Shell B]

In Africa, where HIV is most prevalent, it is spread more by long-term relationships. Isn't that funny?

http://discovermagazine.com/2004/feb/why...TOmQjC0ySo