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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 17, 2013 at 3:13 pm
(March 17, 2013 at 3:01 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (March 17, 2013 at 2:52 pm)catfish Wrote: If a zygote/fetus is not a complete human life, what makes up the other portion of that life?
Thank you, and that's a good question. The zygote only gets one as far as the body, the physical makeup of a person. But that's not what we mourn when a person dies; the body is just a vehicle, after all. The other portion of life is experience, a mind that thinks, senses the world around it, and develops a personality. We as people are nothing more than our personalities and memories, after all, and a fetus has none of that, until it's born and starts actively experiencing the world.
Quote:If you value something about human life, is that value limited to "completeness"?
No, because I don't think there's a point at which a person ever becomes complete. But the value is in the person as a constantly evolving being; putting special significance on the zygote is akin to putting significance in the container. It serves a purpose, for sure, bodies are important, but they aren't us.
Doesn't this mean you respect consciousness and not life itself?
And not putting significance in a zygote is like saying an apple is more important than the seed the started the tree. You can't ever have a "person" without first having a zygote, this goes for everyone.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 17, 2013 at 3:18 pm
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Right.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 17, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Is that your baby fish?
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 17, 2013 at 3:28 pm
It sure as fuck isn't a "baby."
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm
A Fish? A Catfish? Catfish: A bottom feeder that lives on shit.
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 17, 2013 at 3:45 pm
(March 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm)EGross Wrote: A Fish? A Catfish? Catfish: A bottom feeder that lives on shit.
And you keep feeding me shit, so what's your point? To prove that you're the ultimate source?
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Re: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm
(This post was last modified: March 17, 2013 at 4:10 pm by NoraBrimstone.)
Does this look even remotely like an "individual human" with more rights than I?
As I don't seem to have attached the pic properly, I'll try again.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 17, 2013 at 4:31 pm
(March 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Does this look even remotely like an "individual human" with more rights than I?
As I don't seem to have attached the pic properly, I'll try again.
LOL, is it black?
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 18, 2013 at 4:29 am
I'm an advocate of the death penalty but abortion is a much more complex subject. I'm not sure I'm read to dive into abortion right now.
Happy to talk about why I advocate the death penalty, though.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 18, 2013 at 6:15 am
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The death penalty? Should be available, safe and rare.
Where we are with catfudz? GFOK
@ catfudz
Are you advocating that the baptism/ naming ceremonies of the religions of this world are to be abolished because YOU decree that a clump of cells is a human BEING?
Have you ever looked into "human stem cells"? Have you any biology knowledge at all? Any evolution knowledge? Or as Nora suspects you are just being a troll, and an uneducated one at that?
Do you masturbate? As I have intimated... (and I am not going searching for the statistics right this minute) ejaculation releases trillions of sperm ...ALL doomed to die. So this loss of life (in potentia) will stop you from having sex or having the midnight "wet dreams"?
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