Estimation of Intelligence

[catfish]

Got it, the links weren't "adult" enough for ya...

Significantly post high school will do. If you are still in high school just say so. I have no problem replying appropriately. I have no interest in discouraging anyone of any age from being here.

So I can expect a higher level of response if I say I'm in highschool? Cool, because these grade-school antics are kinda tiring...

If you are post high school I do expect some degree of life experience and opinions formed from it, recent graduates excepted of course. But I do expect people not to get in over their head and to learn what over their head means. However if you challenge me giving me no background info I will respond. I really am not a nice person.

The challenge is already there. The IQ test was designed to evaluate mental retardation. I say that anyone who relays the score info is really just screaming "I'm not retarded!". Your demeanor does not affect me, so what type of person you are is irrelevant, unless you're screaming, then I'm taking notes.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

Significantly post high school will do. If you are still in high school just say so. I have no problem replying appropriately. I have no interest in discouraging anyone of any age from being here.

So I can expect a higher level of response if I say I'm in highschool? Cool, because these grade-school antics are kinda tiring...

You would get a response appropriate to someone in high school sort of like I gave my son when he was in HS twenty years ago. We encourage and make suggestions. That is far from higher level. That is age appropriate. People at the AGE to still be in HS have not lived long enough to have accumulated enough of the experiences that people after HS have. In fact people do not become completely adult until around 26 on average. It is nothing personal. It is just the way life is.

If you are post high school I do expect some degree of life experience and opinions formed from it, recent graduates excepted of course. But I do expect people not to get in over their head and to learn what over their head means. However if you challenge me giving me no background info I will respond. I really am not a nice person.

The challenge is already there. The IQ test was designed to evaluate mental retardation. I say that anyone who relays the score info is really just screaming "I'm not retarded!". Your demeanor does not affect me, so what type of person you are is irrelevant, unless you're screaming, then I'm taking notes.

And electricity was originally designed to transmit work at a distance to replace local steam engines powering factories. All the newfangled light bulbs and stuff were invented later. I do not see your point when the original purpose of electricity cannot be discovered without research.

If that is too hard for you the Arpanet, aka internet, was originally designed to exchange government research data. The was originally designed to make that exchange easier, that meaning URLs and hot links and such.

One can be excused for looking at the web today and missing the point it was orginally intended and first used to exchange scientific information amid the twitter and the penis pictures.

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Significantly post high school will do. If you are still in high school just say so. I have no problem replying appropriately. I have no interest in discouraging anyone of any age from being here.

So I can expect a higher level of response if I say I'm in highschool? Cool, because these grade-school antics are kinda tiring...

You would get a response appropriate to someone in high school sort of like I gave my son when he was in HS twenty years ago. We encourage and make suggestions. That is far from higher level. That is age appropriate. People at the AGE to still be in HS have not lived long enough to have accumulated enough of the experiences that people after HS have. In fact people do not become completely adult until around 26 on average. It is nothing personal. It is just the way life is.

If you are post high school I do expect some degree of life experience and opinions formed from it, recent graduates excepted of course. But I do expect people not to get in over their head and to learn what over their head means. However if you challenge me giving me no background info I will respond. I really am not a nice person.

The challenge is already there. The IQ test was designed to evaluate mental retardation. I say that anyone who relays the score info is really just screaming "I'm not retarded!". Your demeanor does not affect me, so what type of person you are is irrelevant, unless you're screaming, then I'm taking notes.

And electricity was originally designed to transmit work at a distance to replace local steam engines powering factories. All the newfangled light bulbs and stuff were invented later. I do not see your point when the original purpose of electricity cannot be discovered without research.

If that is too hard for you the Arpanet, aka internet, was originally designed to exchange government research data. The was originally designed to make that exchange easier, that meaning URLs and hot links and such.

One can be excused for looking at the web today and missing the point it was orginally intended and first used to exchange scientific information amid the twitter and the penis pictures.

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Significantly post high school will do. If you are still in high school just say so. I have no problem replying appropriately. I have no interest in discouraging anyone of any age from being here.

So I can expect a higher level of response if I say I'm in highschool? Cool, because these grade-school antics are kinda tiring...

You would get a response appropriate to someone in high school sort of like I gave my son when he was in HS twenty years ago. We encourage and make suggestions. That is far from higher level. That is age appropriate. People at the AGE to still be in HS have not lived long enough to have accumulated enough of the experiences that people after HS have. In fact people do not become completely adult until around 26 on average. It is nothing personal. It is just the way life is.

If you are post high school I do expect some degree of life experience and opinions formed from it, recent graduates excepted of course. But I do expect people not to get in over their head and to learn what over their head means. However if you challenge me giving me no background info I will respond. I really am not a nice person.

The challenge is already there. The IQ test was designed to evaluate mental retardation. I say that anyone who relays the score info is really just screaming "I'm not retarded!". Your demeanor does not affect me, so what type of person you are is irrelevant, unless you're screaming, then I'm taking notes.

And electricity was originally designed to transmit work at a distance to replace local steam engines powering factories. All the newfangled light bulbs and stuff were invented later. I do not see your point when the original purpose of electricity cannot be discovered without research.

If that is too hard for you the Arpanet, aka internet, was originally designed to exchange government research data. The was originally designed to make that exchange easier, that meaning URLs and hot links and such.

One can be excused for looking at the web today and missing the point it was orginally intended and first used to exchange scientific information amid the twitter and the penis pictures.

[catfish]

You would get a response appropriate to someone in high school sort of like I gave my son when he was in HS twenty years ago. We encourage and make suggestions. That is far from higher level. That is age appropriate. People at the AGE to still be in HS have not lived long enough to have accumulated enough of the experiences that people after HS have. In fact people do not become completely adult until around 26 on average. It is nothing personal. It is just the way life is.

And it's a fact that people's minds deteriorate with age. Expect to be talked to like you don't understand basic things. It's just the way it is.

And electricity was originally designed to transmit work at a distance to replace local steam engines powering factories. All the newfangled light bulbs and stuff were invented later. I do not see your point when the original purpose of electricity cannot be discovered without research.

If that is too hard for you the Arpanet, aka internet, was originally designed to exchange government research data. The was originally designed to make that exchange easier, that meaning URLs and hot links and such.

One can be excused for looking at the web today and missing the point it was orginally intended and first used to exchange scientific information amid the twitter and the penis pictures.

Wow, that was a whole bunch of fluff that didn't address the point at all.
Can you scream a little louder next time?
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[A_Nony_Mouse]

You would get a response appropriate to someone in high school sort of like I gave my son when he was in HS twenty years ago. We encourage and make suggestions. That is far from higher level. That is age appropriate. People at the AGE to still be in HS have not lived long enough to have accumulated enough of the experiences that people after HS have. In fact people do not become completely adult until around 26 on average. It is nothing personal. It is just the way life is.

And it's a fact that people's minds deteriorate with age. Expect to be talked to like you don't understand basic things. It's just the way it is.

Please do.

And electricity was originally designed to transmit work at a distance to replace local steam engines powering factories. All the newfangled light bulbs and stuff were invented later. I do not see your point when the original purpose of electricity cannot be discovered without research.

If that is too hard for you the Arpanet, aka internet, was originally designed to exchange government research data. The was originally designed to make that exchange easier, that meaning URLs and hot links and such.

One can be excused for looking at the web today and missing the point it was orginally intended and first used to exchange scientific information amid the twitter and the penis pictures.

Wow, that was a whole bunch of fluff that didn't address the point at all.
Can you scream a little louder next time?
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And you did not even notice the incorrect information I put in what you quoted. That must be my deteriorating mind at work again.

Arpanet was originally designed to maintain contact between military forces when parts of the communication network were unavailable, aka nuked. For economic reasons the internet today does not satisfy that requirement.

[Love]

In your opinion, is it possible to get an idea of a person's intelligence based on their threads and comments on AF?

In a very limited way. All of us, I am sure, will automatically and simplistically rate users' intelligence as something along the lines of: retarded, below average, average, above average, intelligent, very intelligent, extremely intelligent. These are obviously only subjective interpretations because each person will have a completely different standard of what he or she defines as intelligent. For example, somebody who you rate as "very intelligent" might actually be utterly pretentious and disingenuous. A person you rate as "average" might turn out to be a humble mathematical genius with an IQ of 190. For this reason, I try to reserve judgement about the members on this forum.

As apophenia quoted, I actually agree with Socrates (or "So-Crates" as Bill and Ted would say) with his quote "I know that I know nothing". I have enough humility to realise that, in the grand scheme of things, I know hardly anything, and neither does anybody else. Daniel Dennett has undertaken some excellent work at revealing the extremely limited nature of the human mind.

[catfish]

And you did not even notice the incorrect information I put in what you quoted. That must be my deteriorating mind at work again.

Arpanet was originally designed to maintain contact between military forces when parts of the communication network were unavailable, aka nuked. For economic reasons the internet today does not satisfy that requirement.

I wasn't worried about the content, it was irrelevant and didn't address the point.
In case (because) you forget at your advanced age, I figured I'd explain...

You made a remark about wikipedia having "correct" info, made some age reference and relayed your thoughts on the target audience of that site. (all implying you disagreed with my statement and you're just an asshole). Then when asked to refute the facts I gave, you crumbled into a heap and babbled on about electricity, the internet, newfangled lightbulbs and other fluff.

But it wasn't the fluff or what you consider incorrect facts that bothered me, it was the fact that you repeated the fluff in triplicate, edited 4 minutes later and kept the duplicate posts. Not only does that call into question your cognitive abilities, but it also makes me wonder if you're high???

The challenge was issued and you appear to have cowered away from it. I would think a "not nice" person would jump at the chance to prove someone wrong and gloat after doing so, but you seem to be unable to even refute a high school level information website let alone a high school level encyclopedia.

So, what'll it be? Do you support your implied insults, or do you slink away. (perhaps you'll do the denial, fluff, deflection thing?)

[dazzn]

Academia, as it's the absolute definition (even though as an "absolute" it doesn't account for times when universities or formal education didn't exist. I guess paleolithic and neolithic peoples were all dumb lol.. Or these people cannot discern CULTURAL DEFINITIONS of intelligence...)

I believe intelligence is reasoning, wisdom and action. Generally, it's how somebody perceives the world around them, can problem-solve, can articulate and process their surroundings and experiences.

[The Grand Nudger]

@The OP-

Yeah, it is. It won't be accurate because you're limited to just one or two criteria when you're relying on nothing more than the written word. Passable as an estimate though (so long as you take into account how rough an estimate it is).

[CapnAwesome]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say yes. Obviously (and to preempt some of the stupid people) you can't get some exact score by judging someone's posts on here, but you can get a general idea of the really smart and really stupid people on here. What I find humorous however are those who call people stupid just when they disagree with them.

Edit: Also I think it goes far deeper than just someone's writing ability which is obviously a small portion of intelligence altogether. There is also the ability to present an idea, back it up and defend it. Also the ability to comprehend other people's ideas and respond to them intelligently. The people who tend to give rote forum replies in response to complicated ideas I don't think are particularly bright.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

Academia, as it's the absolute definition (even though as an "absolute" it doesn't account for times when universities or formal education didn't exist. I guess paleolithic and neolithic peoples were all dumb lol.. Or these people cannot discern CULTURAL DEFINITIONS of intelligence...)

I believe intelligence is reasoning, wisdom and action. Generally, it's how somebody perceives the world around them, can problem-solve, can articulate and process their surroundings and experiences.

One is not going to say they were dumb but scores for IQ and related tests slowly increase over the years and have to be renormalized for a higher average. It is not teaching to the test as that cannot be done for IQ tests. As it occurs every decade or two it is too fast for a natural selection process.

It is suggested that IQ is like muscles the more it is exercised the higher it gets. This means simply that modern society is more complex than rural society a couple centuries ago. So every day people are doing the kinds of problems that are on these tests.

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say yes. Obviously (and to preempt some of the stupid people) you can't get some exact score by judging someone's posts on here, but you can get a general idea of the really smart and really stupid people on here. What I find humorous however are those who call people stupid just when they disagree with them.

Edit: Also I think it goes far deeper than just someone's writing ability which is obviously a small portion of intelligence altogether. There is also the ability to present an idea, back it up and defend it. Also the ability to comprehend other people's ideas and respond to them intelligently. The people who tend to give rote forum replies in response to complicated ideas I don't think are particularly bright.

Do you mean like in this thread?

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