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RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
May 28, 2013 at 9:15 pm
(May 17, 2013 at 7:27 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: 1. Gay marriage opens the door to a plethora of new definitions of how "marriage" is defined, a door which the majority of people,especially in the UK, would like to see shut. Consenting adults in a loving relationship is NOT a good enough reason to re-define marriage.
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EXACTLY!!!!
Just like giving equal rights to Black people in the US during the 1960s, made everyone want to give equal rights to animals, microbes, stones and air!
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RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
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RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
May 28, 2013 at 11:36 pm
What a load of rubbish. The only definition of marriage worth the while is "people who love each other committing to a (hopefully) life-long relationship." Nothing more, certainly nothing less.
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RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
June 7, 2013 at 10:28 am
(May 28, 2013 at 9:15 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Just like giving equal rights to Black people in the US during the 1960s, made everyone want to give equal rights to animals, microbes, stones and air! That's not what I said.
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RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
June 7, 2013 at 10:31 am
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Actually, it is Ideo. It's called an appeal to consequence. Germans in turn reduced it to the absurd.....perhaps to demonstrate how ridiculous the appeal was....
-looks like it worked.
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RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
June 7, 2013 at 10:32 am
More recently, I have sent an email to the gay lobby group regarding their position on polygamous marriages. Do they think that polygamous relationships are worthy of the same equality that they are seeking? Well, it took a while for them to respond but their answer was pretty straightforward:
Stonewall does not support polygamous marriage. We are campaigning [for] allowing two people, regardless of their gender, to commit to each other through marriage.
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RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
June 7, 2013 at 10:33 am
(May 17, 2013 at 7:27 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: 1. Gay marriage opens the door to a plethora of new definitions of how "marriage" is defined, a door which the majority of people,especially in the UK, would like to see shut. Consenting adults in a loving relationship is NOT a good enough reason to re-define marriage.
I am certain it has probably already been stated, but marriage has been redefined throughout history.
(May 17, 2013 at 7:27 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: 2. Gay marriage legislation will lead to religious oppression and a rejection of religious freedom.
Churches can still choose whether they want to marry same sex couples or not. The church has always had the right to deny to marry any couple, even straight couples, if it sees fit.
Besides, thankfully the UK has already legalized gay marriage.
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RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
June 7, 2013 at 10:37 am
(June 7, 2013 at 10:31 am)Rhythm Wrote: Actually, it is Ideo. It's called an appeal to consequence. Germans in turn reduced it to the absurd.....perhaps to demonstrate how ridiculous the appeal was.... I don't need a lesson on how black people were treated from an American and a German thank you very much. Yes, it was a form of appeal to consequence.
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RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
June 7, 2013 at 10:37 am
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(June 7, 2013 at 10:32 am)ideologue08 Wrote: More recently, I have sent an email to the gay lobby group regarding their position on polygamous marriages. Do they think that polygamous relationships are worthy of the same equality that they are seeking? Well, it took a while for them to respond but their answer was pretty straightforward:
Stonewall does not support polygamous marriage. We are campaigning [for] allowing two people, regardless of their gender, to commit to each other through marriage. Why would a "gay lobby group" be in the business of supporting polygamous marriages? You're surprised when a realtions guy for a lobbying group tells you "that's not what we do"
This, btw, would be a failed TQ, try again.
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RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
June 7, 2013 at 10:43 am
(June 7, 2013 at 10:37 am)Rhythm Wrote: Why would a "gay lobby group" be in the business of supporting polygamous marriages? You're surprised when a realtions guy for a lobbying group tells you "that's not what we do"
This, btw, would be a failed TQ, try again. No...my question put to them was very straightforward and unambiguous. It was concerning their opinion of its legalisation, would they be happy to see polygamous marriages legalized? There was some back-and-forth before I finally got an answer out of them, I have just emailed them now asking whether or not they will allow me to release the full transcript because they do have a notice in their email saying that the contents of the emails are confidential.
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