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Who witnessed the crucifixion/resurection?
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 (June 19, 2013 at 3:36 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: Isn`t there a bad distopian novel about time travel in which all the spectators at the crucifiction are time travel tourists? There was a movie called "The Gathering" in which there were witnesses to the crucifixion that stopped to watch out of morbid curiosity, and they were then cursed to live for an eternity having to witness murders and catastrophes.  Quote: So if you set your time machine for 33 CE you'll have missed the crucifixion. The timing is very tricky for the jesus freaks. Their so-called "gospels" ( and I think "gospel" is derived from the Greek word for "horseshit") indicate that ole jesus did not begin his "ministry" until John the Baptist was killed. Josephus, however, places the death of JtheB c 34/35 AD although that is the least of the historical problems with this little piece of bullshit. This is what happens when later writers try (poorly) to integrate a new character into history.  (June 18, 2013 at 7:06 pm)taylor93112 Wrote: I was watching a hitchens debate and he said that jews witnessed the crucifixion and resurection, and still thought he was a fraud. So who were the witnesses? Actually the "Jews" who witnessed and converted were no longer referred to as Jews. They were labeled Christian, as per the examples of all of His followers. Only those who remained in their 'faith' were still known as Jews.  (June 20, 2013 at 10:55 pm)Drich Wrote:(June 18, 2013 at 7:06 pm)taylor93112 Wrote: I was watching a hitchens debate and he said that jews witnessed the crucifixion and resurection, and still thought he was a fraud. So who were the witnesses?  strawman.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
So, Drippy. You seem to be the big expert. What do you say is the date of this alleged crucifixion?
RE: Who witnessed the crucifixion/resurection?
June 21, 2013 at 12:14 am
(This post was last modified: June 21, 2013 at 12:15 am by Drich.)
(June 21, 2013 at 12:13 am)Minimalist Wrote: So, Drippy. You seem to be the big expert. What do you say is the date of this alleged crucifixion? I don't know.. Maybe the Friday before the first Easter?  What say you Minnie? What's the punch line? (Your earth shattering faith ending revelation this time?)
So much for your expertise.
(June 21, 2013 at 12:18 am)Minimalist Wrote: So much for your expertise. I need a little more detail doofus. The first Easter according to whom? The Jews record it as 15 Nisan, and from there you can plug that into a conversion calculator and come up with a date that correlates to the gregorian calander. Is that what your looking for? (June 21, 2013 at 12:11 am)Drich Wrote:(June 20, 2013 at 11:24 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:How so? Because he was talking about Jews that witnessed and didn't believe. They are still called Jews. But you took it as if he was talking about Jews that witnessed and did believe, hence your response: Quote:Actually the "Jews" who witnessed and converted were no longer referred to as Jews. ...hence the strawman. "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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