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Four questions for Christians
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (June 24, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Ryantology Wrote:(June 24, 2013 at 2:56 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Good. You have no answer. Question answered then. Let's move on. So I'm a psychopath too now?  Any answer would be good Ryan. You know the saying: put up or shut up RE: Four questions for Christians
June 24, 2013 at 4:21 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2013 at 4:22 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
We all fall within a range Frodo, you probably have tendencies or built up indifference which would amount to such, yes..... same as anyone else. Whether and how that expresses itself in your actions would determine whether or not you deserved the title (I don't think you deserve anything, personally- if that's any consolation).
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (June 24, 2013 at 4:20 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(June 24, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I have no answer which would be acceptable to a psychopath. I have repeatedly asked you to explain how genocide could ever be right and you've never given me answer.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (June 24, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Ryantology Wrote: That would make Hitler and Stalin and every other monster of the world justified in their atrocities; they were all doing what they considered to be good works. That would be a non sequitur Ryan. Secular/ human morality works that way. If the common opinion is that some people are sub human, they are game to be slaves and subject to experimentation. That went for humans 50 years ago, and goes for animals today. Divine morality never goes that way. Abominations against nature are a human preserve. Nature doesn't discriminate. God mirrors nature. (the other way around). Stalin and Hitler we're criminal because their intentions were immoral. You have no evidence that Gods' intentions were immoral. Just the bare fact that mass killing occurred. To hang your accusation of guilt you're applying an inapplicable condition: that God didn't have knowledge enough to judge lots of people at once.
What knowledge did god possess which made any of this anything other than immoral? You'll have to provide that (or god will...but I'm guessing you have a better chance of delivery).
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(June 24, 2013 at 4:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Stalin and Hitler we're criminal because their intentions were immoral. You have no evidence that Gods' intentions were immoral. Just the bare fact that mass killing occurred. To hang your accusation of guilt you're applying an inapplicable condition: that God didn't have knowledge enough to judge lots of people at once. For the hundredth time, describe precisely under which circumstances mass killing is morally-acceptable.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (June 24, 2013 at 4:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What knowledge did god possess which made any of this anything other than immoral? You'll have to provide that (or god will...but I'm guessing you have a better chance of delivery). I'm honoured that you think of me as a god. And why wouldn't you! But the burden is on the other foot. (yay metaphor merge). There is no evidence of evil doing to defend. Just facts about mass killings that you claim are evil without evidence. I'm loving this 
RE: Four questions for Christians
June 24, 2013 at 5:34 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2013 at 5:39 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 24, 2013 at 5:33 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I'm honoured that you think of me as a god. And why wouldn't you!There is only the narrative, which is one of mass killings, and it fits the definition of immoral. Unless something about the narrative is in error....do tell. "Evidence" is an inapplicable metric to fictional narratives. Keep up. "Didn't happen" is a good defense though. C'mon, just this once, give it to me baby (besides, it's the same defense of "god" that I'm offering up).
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Four questions for Christians
June 24, 2013 at 5:43 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2013 at 5:46 pm by fr0d0.)
(June 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Ryantology Wrote: For the hundredth time, describe precisely under which circumstances mass killing is morally-acceptable. You quote A circumstance asking for a circumstance. That's my boy! (June 24, 2013 at 5:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: There is only the narrative, which is one of mass killings, and it fits the definition of immoral. I don't understand how you're reaching that conclusion. Please explain.  Quote:Stalin and Hitler we're criminal because their intentions were immoral. What a preposterous load of shit, Frods. Your standards are usually higher. Been hanging out with G-C and the other dorks, too much? If Hitler had won there'd be statues of him all over Europe and the fucking church would have made him a saint. Talk about miracles! Why...he made the JEWS disappear! |
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