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One question for Christians
June 27, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Just one.
That's all.
Why does blood sacrifice make anything better?
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Just to clarify the question, Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross so that our sins may be forgiven. How's that work exactly? What's the cause and effect between a godman bleeding on a cross and my being forgiven by the same god for the sins I've committed? Why does the blood he shed somehow atone for my sins?
Frankly the disconnect between my sins and Jesus need to bleed on a cross to set it right seems a bit like Monte Python's Mattress Sketch, where if someone says "mattress" to Mr. Lambert, he puts a bag over his head and then men have to make it better by getting into a box and sing.
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RE: One question for Christians
June 27, 2013 at 5:22 pm
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Just one.
That's all.
Why does blood sacrifice make anything better?
The christ is a MYTH - as are all claimed gods
THERE was no reason for a sacrifice - blood or otherwise - THe story of Adam and EVE and original sin - is also a LEGEND - mythology - and never actually happened.
So - since the blood sacrifice - never happened - and never needed to happen to begin with - it is all nonsense
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RE: One question for Christians
June 27, 2013 at 5:23 pm
I thought human (Jesus) sacrifice was to null the old covenant of blood (animal) sacrifice.
Honestly, however, there was absolutely no reason for the sacrifice at all. Jesus' sacrifice was basically just a dramatic show put on to please the masses, nothing more. After all, a truly powerful god surely has a means of removing sin without needlessly sacrificing his son. It just further goes to show the minds of primitive, sadistic men who wrote the bible.
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RE: One question for Christians
June 27, 2013 at 5:32 pm
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2013 at 5:33 pm by Doubting Thomas.)
It's even sillier when you think that this god is supposed to be an all-good, all-loving god, so he requires that his only son be tortured and executed in the most brutal way known at the time in that part of the world. Especially since this god is also all-powerful, so if he really wanted to forgive all mankind, he could have just done so without going through the whole pageantry of the passion story. Then when you think about it, it wasn't really any kind of sacrifice at all because as the myth goes he came back to life after three days and lives in Heaven with his daddy, God.
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RE: One question for Christians
June 27, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Hmm....I get the feeling you already know what answer you're going to be given, DP...
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RE: One question for Christians
June 27, 2013 at 5:51 pm
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2013 at 5:51 pm by CleanShavenJesus.)
(June 27, 2013 at 5:19 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Just one.
That's all.
Why does blood sacrifice make anything better?
I think the more important question is what was the artist thinking when he drew that chest?
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RE: One question for Christians
June 27, 2013 at 5:53 pm
Post like the four above this one is what derails an OP, people parroting the same ol' tired things, why can't you go to scripture and try to disprove what Christians believe. You expect us to go to science to disprove what you believe about evolution, are we asking anything differently than you are, NO we are not. Many atheist have said to me in the last few days they read and study scripture, if that is so then prove it in conversations you have with Christians.
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RE: One question for Christians
June 27, 2013 at 5:57 pm
(June 27, 2013 at 5:53 pm)Godschild Wrote: Post like the four above this one is what derails an OP, people parroting the same ol' tired things, why can't you go to scripture and try to disprove what Christians believe. You expect us to go to science to disprove what you believe about evolution, are we asking anything differently than you are, NO we are not. Many atheist have said to me in the last few days they read and study scripture, if that is so then prove it in conversations you have with Christians.
In other words, you can't satisfactorily answer the question and you know it.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: One question for Christians
June 27, 2013 at 5:58 pm
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2013 at 5:59 pm by Faith No More.)
(June 27, 2013 at 5:53 pm)Godschild Wrote: Post like the four above this one is what derails an OP, people parroting the same ol' tired things, why can't you go to scripture and try to disprove what Christians believe.
Huh...I don't know why you lumped me in there...I was just commenting on the fact that I believe DP already knows the answer he is going to receive and is preparing to debate.
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RE: One question for Christians
June 27, 2013 at 6:01 pm
(June 27, 2013 at 5:51 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: I think the more important question is what was the artist thinking when he drew that chest?
What was the artist thinking when he drew this?
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