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RE: Question for our resident creationist(s)
August 14, 2013 at 3:18 pm
(August 14, 2013 at 3:04 pm)ronedee Wrote: Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. But, to make water is vurtuially a miracle!
So, if we are talking "liquid" NOT H2O, that's something else!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_water
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water#In_the_universe
Quote:Liquid water is present on
Earth: 71% of surface
Europa: 100 km deep subsurface ocean
Strong evidence suggests that liquid water is present just under the surface of Saturn's moon Enceladus.
Liquid water is such a miracle, we've found it twice, possibly three times in our solar system alone!
BTW, all that is needed to create liquid water, is for energy to be applied to ice. Not a miracle, even virtually!
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RE: Question for our resident creationist(s)
August 14, 2013 at 3:21 pm
(August 14, 2013 at 3:04 pm)ronedee Wrote: Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. But, to make water is vurtuially a miracle!
Only to the woefully ignorant.
Molecular H2O forms easily. Liquid water only requires the presence of molecular H20, and ambient pressure and temperature to be in a range where it can remain in that state.
No magic required.
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RE: Question for our resident creationist(s)
August 14, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Quote:Why do we still have to have creationist arguments with Catholics when there have been popes who have stated outright that acceptance of evolution is compatible with Catholicism?
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RE: Question for our resident creationist(s)
August 14, 2013 at 3:22 pm
To have liquid water you need the right conditions of temp. and press. . Therefore, since those conditions are met on our planet God exists and designed this planet specifically for our needs.
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RE: Question for our resident creationist(s)
August 14, 2013 at 3:24 pm
(August 14, 2013 at 3:18 pm)Faith No More Wrote: BTW, all that is needed to create liquid water, is for energy to be applied to ice. Not a miracle, even virtually!
Mostly right - pressure has to be high enough as well, to prevent the water from sublimating to gas.
Still no magic required.
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RE: Question for our resident creationist(s)
August 14, 2013 at 4:26 pm
(August 14, 2013 at 3:04 pm)ronedee Wrote: (August 14, 2013 at 1:40 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Okay, I praised you in another thread, but now we're right back to fighting: Are you fucking kidding me with this shit? This is your answer?
However, I'm going to do something you apparently didn't feel the need to do, and I'm going to treat you as if you have some intellectual curiosity and mental acuity. Here's a water formation in space that's billions of times bigger than the Earth. Isn't that cool?
The other strange thing is that you'll disagree out of hand about the commonness of water, despite standing on a planet that's mostly water, using a body that's mostly water. Just saying.
Thanks for something.
Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. But, to make water is vurtuially a miracle!
So, if we are talking "liquid" NOT H2O, that's something else!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_water
Oxygen is the third most abundant element in the galaxy. Water is not a miracle.
Please, please read a science book.
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RE: Question for our resident creationist(s)
August 15, 2013 at 3:55 am
(August 14, 2013 at 3:04 pm)ronedee Wrote: Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. But, to make water is vurtuially a miracle!
A miracle, is it? Here's a video of science doing it relatively easily.
Here's a machine that does the reverse.
This is not a miracle. It's a fairly common chemical reaction, nothing more.
Quote:So, if we are talking "liquid" NOT H2O, that's something else!
Liquid water is the liquid physical state of H2O, but whether it's liquid, vapor or solid, it's still H2O. That label applies to the chemical composition of the molecule, not the physical state that it's in: if you have a block of ice you've still got water, just in a solid form. I learned this stuff in grade school, why didn't you?
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RE: Question for our resident creationist(s)
August 15, 2013 at 9:48 am
(August 13, 2013 at 11:22 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: (August 13, 2013 at 11:16 am)ronedee Wrote: Wouldn't that question be better ask of an evolutionist?
What is an evolutionist?
Quote:I mean...did your Amoeba form a being, or an egg for your being to be hatched from?
And another case of "To dumb to do research"
http://www.stanford.edu/group/stanfordbi.../Eggs.html
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RE: Question for our resident creationist(s)
August 18, 2013 at 12:49 am
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(August 14, 2013 at 3:04 pm)ronedee Wrote: (August 14, 2013 at 1:40 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Okay, I praised you in another thread, but now we're right back to fighting: Are you fucking kidding me with this shit? This is your answer?
However, I'm going to do something you apparently didn't feel the need to do, and I'm going to treat you as if you have some intellectual curiosity and mental acuity. Here's a water formation in space that's billions of times bigger than the Earth. Isn't that cool?
The other strange thing is that you'll disagree out of hand about the commonness of water, despite standing on a planet that's mostly water, using a body that's mostly water. Just saying.
Thanks for something.
Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. But, to make water is vurtuially a miracle!
So, if we are talking "liquid" NOT H2O, that's something else!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_water
Uh, no, making water is not a miracle. It merely requires a temperature necessary for it to be in liquid form, and given how many stars there are, and how many planets surrounding them, the likelihood of other planets having liquid water is astronomically high to the point that it might as well be 1:1. In fact, there is mounting evidence for liquid water being located under the surfaces of numerous moons and dwarf planets in our own solar system, and even on Mars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_fl...ian_slopes
See, I love it when people who have no fucking clue what the fuck they're talking about try to pretend like they know what they're talking about. It's like a toddler trying to tell me that because someone leaves presents under their tree and eats the milk and cookies that they know Santa is real, except in this case I am under no impression that I need to tolerate your delusion.
It's hilarious how tightly creationists will cling to whatever little crevice they imagine is empty of scientific information to try to strengthen their stance, completely unaware of the fact that the juggernaut that is scientific progress is coming towards them with all the speed and force of a fully-loaded, fully-accelerated freight train, and that the crevice itself is actually growing scientific facts as well.
Well, okay, it would be hilarious if it wasn't unbelievably pathetic.
Are you aware that every authoritative figure in your religious hierarchy educated on the topics of science upon which they speak constantly state that such theories are completely valid and true? Every single Catholic bishop, cardinal, diocese, and pope educated in biology and evolution has stated that evolution is an undeniable fact? Maybe you should start paying attention to your leaders. After all, aren't they supposed to be the authority figures which you are supposed to put all confidence into?
The fact you are not leaves me with only one label to slap on you.
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RE: Question for our resident creationist(s)
August 18, 2013 at 3:03 am
Quote:What is an evolutionist?
A rational human being who does not think that some absurd god played in the dirt to make people.
I imagine the creatard assholes will object but...who cares what they think?
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