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What Is The Point Of Prayer?
RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
So many ridiculous concepts to keep silly theists chained to their ridiculous religion.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 23, 2013 at 2:39 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: So many ridiculous concepts to keep silly theists chained to their ridiculous religion.

No it's to keep you from being chained to a load of worldly crap. You got it the wrong way around.
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 23, 2013 at 2:40 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: No it's to keep you from being chained to a load of worldly crap. You got it the wrong way around.

If lying to yourself helps you sleep better at night....
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
Quote:If lying to yourself helps you sleep better at night....

We will all worship something even if it isn't a supernatural being or a man, that's just human nature. God is ideal orientation of worship not whatever you will have set up in his place.
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 23, 2013 at 2:50 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: We will all worship something.

Erroneous statement. I worship nothing.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
I knew it. The fox is cornered, and he's baring his teeth. Also, you mentioned Carl Sagan and Neil Degrasse Tyson earlier. Are you under the erroneous assumption that these men are gods to us? Do you even know what an atheist is?
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 23, 2013 at 2:36 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
(August 23, 2013 at 2:32 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: Do you worship said emperors?

No that would be idolatry, only God alone should be your only focus, you will get the rest of the world thrown in for free. Yes so Jesus was God in some sense but it's not about worshiping a man it's all about God God God. You don't worship science, Carl Sagan, Neil Degrasse Tyson or anything like that, just God alone. The moment your focus wavers from God idol worship will kick in.

You missed my point. Even if I acknowledge that a person in history existed, it doesn't mean any supposed 'supernatural/divine' claims ascribed to them carry weight with me...and you admit with you, either. I take Jesus in this context...you however, do not. You equating emperors with your godboy opens Pandora's Box. You would now have to discount all other divine claims, while still accepting Jesus'. Problem here is there is better evidence typically for everyone else.

Now, if you brought up the emperor claims solely to legitimize a case for a historical man named Jesus, I'll play along. Of course, a man sans magick tricks makes your religion fall flat.

(August 23, 2013 at 2:50 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
Quote:If lying to yourself helps you sleep better at night....

We will all worship something even if it isn't a supernatural being or a man, that's just human nature. God is ideal orientation of worship not whatever you will have set up in his place.

Not everyone thinks like you do. That's human nature.
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
Quote:Erroneous statement. I worship nothing.

You will have something you revere in your life more than anything else. It can be person possibly. I don't mean Carl Sagan someone important to you personally.

Lets have a look at what Jesus himself said.

"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Matthew 10:37

Now clearly here he was speaking with the authority of God. And he's telling his followers not to put anything before God.
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 23, 2013 at 3:21 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You will have something you revere in your life more than anything else.

So now the word is revere?

Do I worship anything? No.

Do I revere anything? Yes.

Playing semantics with a writer is not a good move.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 23, 2013 at 3:31 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: So now the word is revere?

Do I worship anything? No.

Do I revere anything? Yes.

Playing semantics with a writer is not a good move.

To worship something is to greatly venerate a revere it. And you have something or someone who matters more to you in life than anything else, it isn't God it's something else. Whatever that is can let you down, break, go wrong, betray, die or a number of other things. If this were to happen your life is ruined there is no consolation.
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