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Where is god now?
#61
RE: Where is god now?
(September 8, 2013 at 2:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ...what human parent would set bears on his children for making fun of an old man's baldness?

If my 13 year old son opens his pie hole to mention my thinning hair just one more time...this parent, dammit! Angry
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#62
RE: Where is god now?
(September 9, 2013 at 1:30 am)Maelstrom Wrote:
(September 8, 2013 at 12:57 pm)Drich Wrote: Look up the word. It means to feel sadness or disappointed in something that has happened or has been done.

It has nothing to do with a mistake.

Wrong. Regret has everything to do with mistakes. The two terms are interchangeable. If one regrets not having taken a particular path, then that could very well be a mistake according to reflection upon the past.

look up the word spicolli, your wrong.
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#63
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"Regret is a negative conscious and emotional reaction to personal past acts and behaviors. Regret is often expressed by the term "sorry." Regret is often a feeling of sadness, shame, embarrassment, depression, annoyance, or guilt, after one acts in a manner and later wishes not to have done so. Regret is distinct from guilt, which is a deeply emotional form of regret — one which may be difficult to comprehend in an objective or conceptual way. In this regard, the concept of regret is subordinate to guilt in terms of its emotional intensity. By comparison, shame typically refers to the social (rather than personal) aspect of guilt or (in minor context) regret as imposed by the society or culture (enforcement of ethics, morality), which has substantial bearing in matters of (personal and social) honor.
It is also distinct from remorse, which is a more direct and emotional form of regret over a past action that is considered by society to be hurtful, shameful, or violent. Unlike regret, it includes a strong element of desire for apology to others rather than an internal reflection on one's actions, and may be expressed (sincerely or not) in order to reduce the punishment one receives.
Regret can describe not only the dislike for an action that has been committed, but also, importantly, regret of inaction. Many people find themselves wishing that they had done something in a past situation."

Got it from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regret_(emotion)

So who does it support.....?????

(September 9, 2013 at 7:57 am)Captain Colostomy Wrote:
(September 8, 2013 at 2:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ...what human parent would set bears on his children for making fun of an old man's baldness?

If my 13 year old son opens his pie hole to mention my thinning hair just one more time...this parent, dammit! Angry

I was 37 when my daughter was born- and had a full head of hair. Now I look like a forest after a fire - just a few sprigs left.

It was her what done it. Still - all in all probably a fair swap.

She still takes the piss from time to time of course - I threaten her with a haircut like mine.
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#64
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re·gret
/riˈgret/
verb
verb: regret; 3rd person present: regrets; past tense: regretted; past participle: regretted; gerund or present participle: regretting
1. feel sad, repentant, or disappointed over (something that has happened or been done).
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#65
RE: Where is god now?
(September 9, 2013 at 7:44 am)Brakeman Wrote:
(September 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: First of all God's plan was set before creation, so the plan has never changed, God has been revealing His plan throughout history in a progression He has determined is best...
ooowee! Thats some stretchy apologia! So god's plan didn't change because he planned to change. Because he planed to Evolve with his interactions with mankind.

Prove me wrong! You're the one saying God changes, I've not even indicated He has, nor have I indicated His plan has evolved, again that's your misguided assumption. Your assumptions are not proof of anything nor do they negate my statements. False are your above ^ statements.

Quote:I guess that works with anyone doesn't it? Obama didn't change from a pro-openness and freedom politician to a NSA loving secrets president because he had planned to do so all along. While arguable from his point of view, it is not arguable from the point of view of the observer, same as god.

From the point of view of man, god has undeniably changed.

Obama changes everyday so that he can claim he's right, the most worthless president we have ever had and now the public that voted for him is beginning to see through him. This is all I will say on this particular man. From your point of view God may seem to have changed, if however you understood the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation you would know He has never changed. So you see right here I've denied your statement and God says so also, "God says He never changes because it would go against His nature ie, who He is. God could not be omniscient if He were to change.

(September 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: .. God at the time of Abraham gave him the law of circumcision, He did this to set the Israelites apart from all other people, circumcision was not a practice before this time and was only practiced by Israelites until after Christ's ascent into heaven. There were no laws given to the Israelites until they left Egypt, God gave them many laws that would lead to a better relationship with Him.
Quote:So the people of the previous generation, god chose not to tell them the "laws that would lead to a better relationship with Him", why not? How fair is it to be judges without the better guidelines of what is required?
If a teacher gave homework and told the latecomers more info on its requirements, would that be fair to the earlier students? No!

There were no Israelites before Abraham, they will be judged by what they knew at the time, that is what I believe. The same goes for those before the law was handed down, but that came after Abraham. God has not let us know all about how He will judge, and it may very well be better that way.

(September 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: The food laws and the law of two different cloths being sown together and ect. were given to further identify the Israelites as God's people and separated from the other people ..

Quote:So all knowing god needed help identifying his people? Who was god so concerned with identifying his children? Why is god not concerned with identifying christians today? What would it matter?

NO, no, no, God didn't need to know, the omniscient God already knew. It was a sign for all other people and to the Israelites. Don't ask me why I do not know why He chose to do it that way.
How today, that's a good question that Christians need to ask themselves every day. Today God says we as Christians are to live a life that sets us apart from the world, so our belief in Christ and the Holy Spirit's guidance will help us do this, that's as long as we listen of coarse. It matters because when we live as Christians should we are a witness to the lost world and the world will see us as followers of Christ.

(September 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: This is why they had laws we find either mysterious or they seem not to make sense.
Enter Christ into the world, God the Father brought Him into the world through His chosen people, as He promised. God revealed His plan through Christ and the plan was for the world, everyone. So those laws that applied to the Israelites, that by the way only applied to them, food laws, circumcision and such, never had to be applied to others because Christ came to the world, for Jews and gentiles alike. All who come to God through Christ are part of His family and this is how God now separates His people from the world.
.. GC


Quote:OK, school has a set of rules for the students that has been set for years.
The school gets a new principal, who changes some of the rules. One does not say that the old rules were invalidated by the new principal's arrival, nor does one say that the changed rules weren't changed.

God has not been replaced nor has He changed the rules, for those who do not accept God's completed plan... well let's just say they will be judged by the law and they will become their own sacrifice.


Quote:By the way, "God's people are now separated from the rest of the world by education reason and derision."

I know many well educated Christians, from scientist and nuclear engineers to teachers and professors ect. All the Christians I know are very reasonable people, and ridicule only makes the person doing the ridiculing look foolish. So as I see it your idea of separation for Christians is a worldly view that just doesn't hold water.

Smile GC
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Quote:All the Christians I know are very reasonable people

As opposed to you.
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#67
RE: Where is god now?
(September 9, 2013 at 8:58 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(September 9, 2013 at 7:44 am)Brakeman Wrote: ooowee! Thats some stretchy apologia! So god's plan didn't change because he planned to change. Because he planed to Evolve with his interactions with mankind.

Prove me wrong! You're the one saying God changes, I've not even indicated He has, nor have I indicated His plan has evolved, again that's your misguided assumption. Your assumptions are not proof of anything nor do they negate my statements. False are your above ^ statements.
Okee Dokee then, we'll just say that everyone after Adam received a free video tape from god telling the whole message from abraham to jesus (and joe smith if they were of the mormon bent). Therefore god did not change his level of communication with man. They all knew the rules and exactly how to enjoy a closer relationship with him.

(September 9, 2013 at 8:58 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Quote:I guess that works with anyone doesn't it? Obama didn't change from a pro-openness and freedom politician to a NSA loving secrets president because he had planned to do so all along. While arguable from his point of view, it is not arguable from the point of view of the observer, same as god.

From the point of view of man, god has undeniably changed.

.. From your point of view God may seem to have changed, if however you understood the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation you would know He has never changed...
If god materialized in my room as a red butted orangutan I might know that too, but alas that's not going to happen.(unless I accidentally ingest some LSD)
(September 9, 2013 at 8:58 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(September 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: .. There were no laws given to the Israelites until they left Egypt, God gave them many laws that would lead to a better relationship with Him.
Quote:So the people of the previous generation, god chose not to tell them the "laws that would lead to a better relationship with Him", why not? How fair is it to be judges without the better guidelines of what is required?
If a teacher gave homework and told the latecomers more info on its requirements, would that be fair to the earlier students? No!

There were no Israelites before Abraham, they will be judged by what they knew at the time, that is what I believe. The same goes for those before the law was handed down, but that came after Abraham. God has not let us know all about how He will judge, and it may very well be better that way.

How could it be better that way? How could that be possible and stay true to god's nature?

(September 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Quote:So all knowing god needed help identifying his people? Who was god so concerned with identifying his children? Why is god not concerned with identifying christians today? What would it matter?

NO, no, no, God didn't need to know, the omniscient God already knew. It was a sign for all other people and to the Israelites. Don't ask me why I do not know why He chose to do it that way.
How today, that's a good question that Christians need to ask themselves every day. Today God says we as Christians are to live a life that sets us apart from the world, so our belief in Christ and the Holy Spirit's guidance will help us do this, that's as long as we listen of coarse. It matters because when we live as Christians should we are a witness to the lost world and the world will see us as followers of Christ.
Couldn't you ask him why he wanted to separate his people with silly rules and rituals next time you pray? Surely he'd tell you. God has no reason for secrets does he?

Couldn't god have identified and separated his jewish people in the same way you say that modern christians should be separate from the world? Why did god change his mind about the method he wanted his followers to be identified, first by rules and rituals and then by goodness and piety?
(September 9, 2013 at 8:58 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(September 9, 2013 at 8:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: God has not been replaced nor has He changed the rules, for those who do not accept God's completed plan... well let's just say they will be judged by the law and they will become their own sacrifice.
Quote:By the way, "God's people are now separated from the rest of the world by education reason and derision."

I know many well educated Christians, from scientist and nuclear engineers to teachers and professors ect. ..
GC

There are a lot of educated, professional people that smoke cigarettes too.
Smoking cigarettes is very stupid thing to do on many levels. Therefore people that smoke cigarettes are stupid. They may not be stupid in every conceivable way, but they are stupid.
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#68
RE: Where is god now?
(September 9, 2013 at 8:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: Prove me wrong! You're the one saying God changes, I've not even indicated He has, nor have I indicated His plan has evolved, again that's your misguided assumption. Your assumptions are not proof of anything nor do they negate my statements. False are your above ^ statements.

Good to see that after all this time on the forums, you still don't understand the burden of proof.
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Quote:There are a lot of educated, professional people that smoke cigarettes too.
Smoking cigarettes is very stupid thing to do on many levels. Therefore people that smoke cigarettes are stupid. They may not be stupid in every conceivable way, but they are stupid.

So is breathing...or so I am told...very stupid; as we are ALL going to die from oxygen.



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