Atheist or really Agnostic

[Whateverist]

No wonder I haven't found god! I never thought to check the ingredients in either of those products.

[pocaracas]

I do not believe in Santa.

Good, now replace Santa with your favorite god and you'll, hopefully, understand my non belief in that god.

[Tonus]

To truly be an atheist is to claim that there in no God. But that very claim is to pose an absolute negation about a supreme being. It would be extremely hard to prove such an absolute negation. Even if you could look throughout the entire universe, which you cannot, and found no God, that still would not prove that God does not exist. It would at best prove that God could not be seen.

Because of this, it is impossible to absolutely claim that there is no God. A person could be fairly convinced of their position, but they could not prove it. In essence they would logically have to be an agnostic, with a personal belief that to the best of their knowledge, there is no God. But then logically they are agnostic. They really do not know.

Since logically they are agnostic, they must allow for the possibility that God may exist, if they are to be true to a logical position. They certainly can keep their personal belief of no God, unless they could be shown that God does exist. But an honest agnostic must allow for the possibility that God exists.

Those that claim that they will always be an atheist, may be showing that it is not logical to absolutely claim that there is no God, but a bias to not even consider the evidence.

Well, you could render the whole topic moot by, you know... proving that there is a god.

[Cyberman]

I do not believe in Santa.

Well, by your very first statement in this thread, this means you claim that there is no Santa. But that very claim is to pose an absolute negation about a jolly old elf. It would be extremely hard to prove such an absolute negation. Even if you could look throughout the entire Universe, which you cannot, and found no Satna, that still would not prove that Santa does not exist. It would at best prove that Santa could not be seen.

Because of this, it is impossible to claim absolutely that there is no Santa.

Etc etc. You see where I'm going with this..?

Now, to echo my previous post to you (which you haven't even acknowledged), do you accept all of the above simple logic? And if not, why not?

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

I do not believe in Santa.

Well, by your very first statement in this thread, this means you claim that there is no Santa. But that very claim is to pose an absolute negation about a jolly old elf. It would be extremely hard to prove such an absolute negation. Even if you could look throughout the entire Universe, which you cannot, and found no Satna, that still would not prove that Santa does not exist. It would at best prove that Santa could not be seen.

Because of this, it is impossible to claim absolutely that there is no Santa.

Etc etc. You see where I'm going with this..?

Now, to echo my previous post to you (which you haven't even acknowledged), do you accept all of the above simple logic? And if not, why not?

The Holy Bible is true. There is no mention of Santa.
So Santa does not exist.
Which every grown up already knows because they actually play the part.

Your analogy shows no basis of logic at all.

[max-greece]

The Holy Bible is true. There is no mention of the Boeing 747.
So the Boeing 747 does not exist.
Which every grown up already knows because.....

[Bad Wolf]

Savedbygracethrufaith, you are a fucking idiot. Or a poe.

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

The Holy Bible is true. There is no mention of the Boeing 747.
So the Boeing 747 does not exist.
Which every grown up already knows because.....

Again a bad analogy.

We can actually see and touch a 747.

We can only see fake Santas.

[Esquilax]

The Holy Bible is true. There is no mention of Santa.
So Santa does not exist.

Oh, that's good then, because the holy bible also has no mention of you personally either, and I was getting rather tired of your shtick. It's a relief that you don't exist, by your own logic. Well, by someone's logic, anyway. People that don't exist can't have logic.

Which every grown up already knows because they actually play the part.

Yes, just like satan is playing the part of your god in the holy text he's successfully tricked you into worshiping, rather than the real god. So you see, you're just making the real god madder and madder by worshiping the devil like you do.

You should stop that, satanist.

Your analogy shows no basis of logic at all.

I genuinely hope you aren't a poe, because this is the level of fish-in-a-barrel thinking that could amuse me for weeks.

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Again a bad analogy.

We can actually see and touch a 747.

We can only see fake Santas.

Can we see your god?

[max-greece]

The Holy Bible is true. There is no mention of the Boeing 747.
So the Boeing 747 does not exist.
Which every grown up already knows because.....

Again a bad analogy.

We can actually see and touch a 747.

We can only see fake Santas.

Have you checked them all? Maybe one is the real thing.

Plus - I have seen the real Santa Claus in a movie - which is as good evidence as your book and even more convincing.

However, if you didn't like the example, here is another one:

The Holy Bible is true. There is no mention of viral infection.
So viral infection does not exist.
Which every grown up already knows because demons cause illness.

And before you say we can see viruses remember that there is no mention in the bible of the scanning electron microscope either.