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The most important reason anyone is an atheist
RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 25, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, and hoping. Tongue

And I am crushing that hope and teaching you the important lesson that reality doesn't conform your desires. Wink
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 25, 2013 at 4:17 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(October 25, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, and hoping. Tongue

And I am crushing that hope and teaching you the important lesson that reality doesn't conform your desires. Wink

Is the Jello wrestling next? because I'm just waiting for that. I'm sure the rest is nice and important and special and all, but give me two sweaty guys rolling around in a tub of brown goo and I am sooo there.


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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 25, 2013 at 4:17 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(October 25, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, and hoping. Tongue

And I am crushing that hope and teaching you the important lesson that reality doesn't conform your desires. Wink

I am feeling existential sadness, and awaiting the jello-wrestling. Tongue
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee

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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 25, 2013 at 10:43 am)Rationalman Wrote: So all those scientist have it wrong. Enrico is the only one to have figured it out.
Can someone please provide a link about the subject. Maybe a peer reviewed paper or something, not that he would understand it


I am still waiting to see your evidence.
I keep hearing that you guys got the evidence but where the hell is this evidence?
Anyway we still got 2 month before Christmas or maybe Santa will bring the good news?Wink Shades

(October 24, 2013 at 10:10 am)apophenia Wrote:
(October 24, 2013 at 7:43 am)enrico Wrote: Consciousness is not physical therefore can not be studied by physical science.

Prove it.

(And no, NDEs do not prove it. It's not clear what NDEs are or what causes them, and until it is, they are not proof. Until you can provide evidence as to what they actually are, they are not themselves evidence for anything else. If NDEs and 'auras' are all you have for proof, then you have no proof.


What a disappointment Apo.
I thought that you believe in science and yet when a neurosurgeon like Eben Alexander that had a NDE say that the consciousness can get disconnected from the body you do not believe.
So who the hell are you believe in?
It remind me those politicians that pretend to know more then the scientists about the climate changes.
I think that you don't really care who say this or that as far as it does not interfere with your agenda and your interests.
This sort of attitude can cause some mental disease so watch out.Wink Shades
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 26, 2013 at 10:23 am)enrico Wrote:
(October 25, 2013 at 10:43 am)Rationalman Wrote: So all those scientist have it wrong. Enrico is the only one to have figured it out.
Can someone please provide a link about the subject. Maybe a peer reviewed paper or something, not that he would understand it


I am still waiting to see your evidence.
I keep hearing that you guys got the evidence but where the hell is this evidence?
Anyway we still got 2 month before Christmas or maybe Santa will bring the good news?Wink Shades

Let's see as evidence we have the Montreal procedure, pyschotropic drugs, MRI, eeg's, split brain patients, phineaus fur (forgive the spelling), Mr. M, Michael hunt, Alzheimer's, Mr. H. , and high functioning autistics
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 25, 2013 at 3:57 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Esq, the findings of neuroscience must be interpretated. The framework for that is a philosophical question.


You are asking for far tooooooo much.
Philosophical question?
Oh no please Chad.
You want to kill them?
I have been trying to get some clue from these guys about the meaning of philosophy for many month and nothing ever come up.
One guy copy and paste some information from wiki but nothing else.
They haven't got a clue about philosophy so how the hell can they know about philosophical question?Smile

(October 26, 2013 at 10:42 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Let's see as evidence we have the Montreal procedure, pyschotropic drugs, MRI, eeg's, split brain patients, phineaus fur (forgive the spelling), Mr. M, Michael hunt, Alzheimer's, Mr. H. , and high functioning autistics


Keep on looking boy.
But look in the right direction there where can be demonstrated that with the body death also the consciousness die.Smile
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 26, 2013 at 10:23 am)enrico Wrote: ...
a neurosurgeon like Eben Alexander
...

Neuroscience is to Neurosurgery as Engineering Science is to Mechanics.

Smile
The PURPOSE of life is to replicate our DNA ................. (from Darwin)
The MEANING of life is the experience of living ... (from Frank Herbert)
The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind ..... (from observation)
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 26, 2013 at 10:51 am)enrico Wrote:
(October 25, 2013 at 3:57 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Esq, the findings of neuroscience must be interpretated. The framework for that is a philosophical question.


You are asking for far tooooooo much.
Philosophical question?
Oh no please Chad.
You want to kill them?
I have been trying to get some clue from these guys about the meaning of philosophy for many month and nothing ever come up.
One guy copy and paste some information from wiki but nothing else.
They haven't got a clue about philosophy so how the hell can they know about philosophical question?Smile

(October 26, 2013 at 10:42 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Let's see as evidence we have the Montreal procedure, pyschotropic drugs, MRI, eeg's, split brain patients, phineaus fur (forgive the spelling), Mr. M, Michael hunt, Alzheimer's, Mr. H. , and high functioning autistics


Keep on looking boy.
But look in the right direction there where can be demonstrated that with the body death also the consciousness die.Smile

Eegs and MRI demonstrate that aptly. People I have died hook into both so we could observe the process well. We also can measure what is going on in a persons brain using both and through the Montreal procedure we have mapped most of the limbic system and proven that electric stimulation is what produces thoughts and sensations.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
The true victory against enrico is when you put him on ignore and are free of his arrogant drivel, folks. Smile
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee

Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!
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RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
(October 26, 2013 at 3:37 am)Esquilax Wrote: I am feeling existential sadness, and awaiting the jello-wrestling. Tongue

Well, the existential sadness just means you're sane.

As far as the jello-wrestling goes, you'd have to get me pretty drunk.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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