(October 23, 2013 at 11:08 am)enrico Wrote: As i said time after time physical science can not leave the border of the corral

Physical science? As opposed to what other kind of science?

(October 23, 2013 at 2:07 pm)Rationalman Wrote:

(October 23, 2013 at 11:08 am)enrico Wrote: As i said time after time physical science can not leave the border of the corral

Physical science? As opposed to what other kind of science?

Sky daddy science, what else? You know, the formula that starts with a naked assertion, then pulls shit out of it's ass in order to lead to confirmation bias.

Otherwise known as human imagination.

(October 23, 2013 at 11:47 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Yes, it's the old "You'll never be convinced no matter what evidence is shown to you" claim. Usually given in response as to why God never reveals himself to those who don't believe. It's just another cop out. If they pull that one out then they think they're exempt from providing evidence of their claims.

Here again you strike one more dogma.
Suppose you are God.
There are people who would like to have a relationship with you and people who are not interested at all.
Why should you reveal yourself to people who are not interested?
Have you got a good reason for pretending that God should reveal to these people?
Relationship work when two people are interested in each other.
That is the way it always worked and will always works.

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(October 23, 2013 at 2:07 pm)Rationalman Wrote:

(October 23, 2013 at 11:08 am)enrico Wrote: As i said time after time physical science can not leave the border of the corral

Physical science? As opposed to what other kind of science?

You can be a super intelligent intellectual but as far as consciousness you are zero.
Physical science it is called physical just because it is related to this physical arena.
Consciousness is not physical therefore can not be studied by physical science.
A different type of science is needed and that science is called intuitional science.
I understand that this mean nothing to you for the time being but in future when you will understand that so far nothing that you tried has given anything of value to you then you will change your mind.
As the old saying.........IS NEVER TOO LATE.

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(October 23, 2013 at 11:22 am)Esquilax Wrote: I'm not arrogant enough to rely on bullshit like you.

Ok. you are not arrogant so answer the question that i have been waiting for the last few days.
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT WE ARE FINITE?

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(October 23, 2013 at 11:39 am)Cinjin Wrote: ... the christian decides to be glib about Santa when he himself believes in a magic wizard that lives in another dimension, that no one has ever seen, and that used primitive desert nomads to attempt inspiring people.
Good one Einstein.

The greatest battle of all is not to defeat an external enemy.
On the contrary is to defeat the internal enemy.
When you will be able to bring your mind under total control then you will understand how the whole system works and that stage belong to a different dimension.
That does not necessary mean that you will depart this physical arena.
Unfortunately for you you will understand this point when you yourself will do something in this regard so if you expect that other will give you the clue then you will wait for ever and ever.

Mindless babbling again....I don't know what I expected

(October 24, 2013 at 7:43 am)enrico Wrote: Here again you strike one more dogma.

Yeah, who does he think he is, Michael Vickma?

(October 23, 2013 at 2:34 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You know, the formula that starts with a naked assertion, then pulls shit out of it's ass in order to lead to confirmation bias. Otherwise known as human imagination.

Sure.
I imagine that you refer to your assertion in which you said that we are finite without bring any evidence to back it up.
I am patient take your time.
Hoping before Christmas.

(October 24, 2013 at 7:43 am)enrico Wrote: Ok. you are not arrogant so answer the question that i have been waiting for the last few days.
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT WE ARE FINITE?

The fact that, when our brains cease to function, we die. The fact that no evidence of persistence after this point has ever been recorded. The fact that near death experiences always seem to conform to the existing preferences of the person having them.

If you'd like to propose something that flies in the face of the actual evidence, like you are, then you are the one who needs to provide evidence of it. In asking me for proof that your completely unfounded and baseless assertion that we're somehow infinite isn't true, you're just shifting the burden of proof and showing yet more of your drastic misunderstanding of how logic and argumentation works.

(October 24, 2013 at 7:43 am)enrico Wrote: When you will be able to bring your mind under total control then you will understand how the whole system works and that stage belong to a different dimension.

And you're supposed to be an example of someone who has, quote "[brought their] mind under total control"?

Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick to reality, cheers.

Now do your stretches.

(October 24, 2013 at 8:18 am)Rationalman Wrote: Mindless babbling again....I don't know what I expected

I guess you expect something at your grasp.
The problem when you speculate about things that you do not know is that that the answer come back like a boomerang that you will not be able to catch so this disappointment will prevent you from going any further.
The one who is babbling is the one who can not back up his assertions and that one is not me.

(October 24, 2013 at 8:40 am)enrico Wrote: I guess you expect something at your grasp.
The problem when you speculate about things that you do not know is that that the answer come back like a boomerang that you will not be able to catch so this disappointment will prevent you from going any further.
The one who is babbling is the one who can not back up his assertions and that one is not me.

You are a real pathetic piece of work. You have not backed up any of your assertions at all you filthy hypocrite.
Provide evidence that we are not finite beings. Remember, the burden is on you because all the evidence suggests that we are indeed finite beings.

Provide evidence for reincarnation or karma or whatever other shit you believe in.

Since you have failed to do this when asked before i'm going to assume you don't have any. Therefore, you don't have an argument and you should shut the hell up until you do.