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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
October 29, 2013 at 5:08 pm
(June 23, 2013 at 12:06 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: (June 23, 2013 at 6:03 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Also it is you that start diverting the discussion
because you will feel more comfortable debating evolution itself than debating intelligence, because you will be much weaker there.
A nice jab to show that you have no clue what you're doing anymore. And you prefer to debate intelligent design rather than evolution, because you would be weaker there.
Actually, you're already pretty weak with intelligent design. I'd hate to see you try to debate evolution. I admit that evolution itself may happened
but if it ever it must be intelligent evolution
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
October 29, 2013 at 5:14 pm
(October 29, 2013 at 5:08 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (June 23, 2013 at 12:06 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: A nice jab to show that you have no clue what you're doing anymore. And you prefer to debate intelligent design rather than evolution, because you would be weaker there.
Actually, you're already pretty weak with intelligent design. I'd hate to see you try to debate evolution. I admit that evolution itself may happened
but if it ever it must be intelligent evolution
If you concede that evolution occurs, then you must also concede that evolution placed the vagina next to the anus. In which case, it begs the question where is the intelligence in placing an entertainment center next to a sewage treatment plant?
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
October 29, 2013 at 5:33 pm
(October 29, 2013 at 5:08 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I admit that evolution itself may happened
but if it ever it must be intelligent evolution
If that is true, then even a basic knowledge of biology will tell you such an intelligence must have been sadistic, retarded and possessed of an affection for beetles that borders on pathological
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
October 29, 2013 at 5:46 pm
(October 29, 2013 at 5:08 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I admit that evolution itself may happened
but if it ever it must be intelligent evolution
Scholar, don't necro-post, it's against the rules. And especially don't do it for a bland assertion with nothing backing it.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
October 30, 2013 at 4:53 am
(October 29, 2013 at 5:14 pm)orogenicman Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 5:08 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I admit that evolution itself may happened
but if it ever it must be intelligent evolution
If you concede that evolution occurs, then you must also concede that evolution placed the vagina next to the anus. In which case, it begs the question where is the intelligence in placing an entertainment center next to a sewage treatment plant? I think you should use your brain a bit (for a change)
How non-intelligent process can create a penis and a Vagina and 2 completely different system to fit each other for reproduction.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
October 30, 2013 at 7:14 am
(October 30, 2013 at 4:53 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: How non-intelligent process can create a penis and a Vagina and 2 completely different system to fit each other for reproduction.
Slowly, by increments. This isn't some whole cloth transformation, Scholar; the evolution of sexual reproduction happened in stages, just like any other kind. Randomness doesn't enter into it, because every individual change is informed by the ones that came before it. I can see, you're all like, "what are the chances?!" but your inability to understand evolution doesn't mean that a god had to be involved.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
October 30, 2013 at 7:53 am
Fascinating thread.
Muslim... I'll accept that.
Scholar... Not so much.
The PURPOSE of life is to replicate our DNA ................. (from Darwin)
The MEANING of life is the experience of living ... (from Frank Herbert)
The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind ..... (from observation)
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof VI - Instincts
October 30, 2013 at 9:45 am
(October 30, 2013 at 4:53 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 5:14 pm)orogenicman Wrote: If you concede that evolution occurs, then you must also concede that evolution placed the vagina next to the anus. In which case, it begs the question where is the intelligence in placing an entertainment center next to a sewage treatment plant? I think you should use your brain a bit (for a change)
How non-intelligent process can create a penis and a Vagina and 2 completely different system to fit each other for reproduction.
Right, so you have an example of "intelligent evolution". I eagerly wait your intelligent example.
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"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
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