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RE: Yahweh, the Devil, and Job
November 7, 2013 at 12:54 am
(November 4, 2013 at 4:40 pm)ronedee Wrote: When I look around here (metaphorically) all I see is a bunch of people with white canes and big, ugly dark glasses bumping into each other and cursing the darkness.....
Interesting. Let me tell you what we see when we look at you...
nevermind. You're actually proud to be called one of these stupid animals.
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RE: Yahweh, the Devil, and Job
November 7, 2013 at 12:57 am
(November 5, 2013 at 5:29 pm)Dionysius Wrote: I would expect better from someone with a 145 I.Q.
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Johnny's got a 145 IQ ?!??!?!!?
Bull shit. If Johnnny's got a 145 IQ than I am the mother fuckin Tooth Fairy!
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RE: Yahweh, the Devil, and Job
November 7, 2013 at 1:01 am
Define "fairy" because I'm thinking both are true.
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RE: Yahweh, the Devil, and Job
November 7, 2013 at 1:02 am
(November 5, 2013 at 10:07 am)John V Wrote: (November 5, 2013 at 9:55 am)Faith No More Wrote: And strangely, you fail to comprehend that Satan only does this after getting the go-ahead from God. Without God's complicity in the situation, Satan could not have harmed a hair on Job's head, but God was so desperate to prove a point that he allowed Satan to slaughter his family.
So, while Satan may have done the actual harming, God is equally responsible. If a man allows a pedophile to rape his daughter, he can't then turn around and say, "But it wasn't me" as a defense. Your attempts to get your god off the hook are forlorn. You haven't even seen my attempts to get god "off the hook" in this thread, although I've probably done it before here, as it's a popular topic. So far for my part of the discussion it's been about Satan's role.
I love it. No excuses right Johnny 5. "Our god's a dick and anything he does is alright by all of us groveling sheep."
I like it when they just come clean and admit that their god is fucking asshole. At least its honest.
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RE: Yahweh, the Devil, and Job
November 7, 2013 at 1:04 am
(November 7, 2013 at 1:01 am)catfish Wrote: Define "fairy" because I'm thinking both are true.
Careful Catfish, you're already on the chopping block and this could easily be considered Flaming. Keep your insults directly related to the conversation.
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RE: Yahweh, the Devil, and Job
November 7, 2013 at 1:08 am
Dat's cool. I took your statement litteraly as you "a mother" fucking "Tooth Fairy". See? You're the mother in your statement. (which was related to the conversation, btw)
Define "Fairy"? Or no?
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RE: Yahweh, the Devil, and Job
November 8, 2013 at 9:49 am
(November 7, 2013 at 1:02 am)Cinjin Wrote: I love it. No excuses right Johnny 5. Just avoiding hypocrisy.
In Job, God derives pleasure and glory from Job's obedience. He allows Job to suffer, as obedience through suffering is greater than obedience with reward, and so would bring God greater pleasure.
I don't judge god for doing this because I do the same thing. So do you, and probably everyone on here. We place our own pleasure and glory above the suffering of others all the time. The difference between me and you is that I admit it, but you'll attempt to rationalize it.
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RE: Yahweh, the Devil, and Job
November 8, 2013 at 10:01 am
so to paraphrase: this brings pleasure and glory to god because they are singing Jesus loves me to the grave.
That would make sense if he was an evil fucking asshole, which u claim he's not.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Yahweh, the Devil, and Job
November 8, 2013 at 10:18 am
(November 8, 2013 at 10:01 am)missluckie26 Wrote: so to paraphrase: this brings pleasure and glory to god because they are singing Jesus loves me to the grave.
That would make sense if he was an evil fucking asshole, which u claim he's not. Or to paraphrase: you guys claim there's no god, so there's only people to feed those children, but they go to the grave while we grow fat and get high and invent all sorts of amusements because our own pleasure is more important to us. We just like to pretend otherwise.
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RE: Yahweh, the Devil, and Job
November 8, 2013 at 10:19 am
(November 8, 2013 at 10:01 am)missluckie26 Wrote:
so to paraphrase: this brings pleasure and glory to god because they are singing Jesus loves me to the grave.
That would make sense if he was an evil fucking asshole, which u claim he's not.
What's stopping you from helping all those starving babies?
If you and your hordes of anti's got together you could save thousands of them!
But NO...complain to Christians who far and away help more people than just about anyone else in the world! Get a clue missy.
God helps those who help themselves.
Quis ut Deus?
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