Why did God create the universe?

[Whateverist]

Pretty simple question that I've never gotten an answer to while I was a Christian. For what reason did God create the universe?

To get to the other side?

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Pretty simple question that I've never gotten an answer to while I was a Christian. For what reason did God create the universe? Did he have a reason? Did he need to create the universe?

God created the universe because He loves you.

That would have been my second guess. Personally I think He went to a lot of unnecessary trouble creating billions and billions of galaxies when all we've ever needed was right here in our own solar system. If this heaven is all it's cracked up to be, why not skip this world altogether and go straight there? I guess God must work in deranged and improbably ways.

[Godscreated]

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Pretty simple question that I've never gotten an answer to while I was a Christian. For what reason did God create the universe? Did he have a reason? Did he need to create the universe?

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People have been asking this since the beginning of time and they never get an answer because there is none. Theists can't answer this question and when they try, as has been pointed out, the results are usually poor. Especially if said person subscribes to the "God is perfect" belief, because a perfect being would have no reason to create anything period. But they usually just counter-argue "God is beyond our comprehension" which is basically just a big cop-out and a fancier way of saying, "God works in mysterious ways."

Then they wonder why people don't believe.

Why wouldn't a perfect being want to create, God wanted to create a universe and all it contained for His pleasure, does a perfect being not want to bring more pleasure to His life.

GC

[Lemonvariable72]

People have been asking this since the beginning of time and they never get an answer because there is none. Theists can't answer this question and when they try, as has been pointed out, the results are usually poor. Especially if said person subscribes to the "God is perfect" belief, because a perfect being would have no reason to create anything period. But they usually just counter-argue "God is beyond our comprehension" which is basically just a big cop-out and a fancier way of saying, "God works in mysterious ways."

Then they wonder why people don't believe.

Why wouldn't a perfect being want to create, God wanted to create a universe and all it contained for His pleasure, does a perfect being not want to bring more pleasure to His life.

GC

No because a prefect being is by definetion perfectly for fulfilled and therefore does not want anything. Wanting would mean he was unfulfilled and thus imperfect

[Esquilax]

Why wouldn't a perfect being want to create, God wanted to create a universe and all it contained for His pleasure, does a perfect being not want to bring more pleasure to His life.

GC

No because a prefect being is by definetion perfectly for fulfilled and therefore does not want anything. Wanting would mean he was unfulfilled and thus imperfect

Add to that the simple fact that GC's reasoning makes no sense on its own: god creates a universe for his own pleasure, knowing ahead of time that the beings he creates in it will rebel against him, sin- something he can't abide, and stokes his anger- and will lock him into a war with the devil... what in all of this is pleasurable?

It also leaves him stuck, because now he's in the position where god's actions within the universe he created were also for his own pleasure, including all the wars and deaths, the flood, etc etc.

[Lemonvariable72]

No because a prefect being is by definetion perfectly for fulfilled and therefore does not want anything. Wanting would mean he was unfulfilled and thus imperfect

Add to that the simple fact that GC's reasoning makes no sense on its own: god creates a universe for his own pleasure, knowing ahead of time that the beings he creates in it will rebel against him, sin- something he can't abide, and stokes his anger- and will lock him into a war with the devil... what in all of this is pleasurable?

It also leaves him stuck, because now he's in the position where god's actions within the universe he created were also for his own pleasure, including all the wars and deaths, the flood, etc etc.

Well he does a legions of people on earth mindlessly worshiping and praising him, what kind of perfect being would not enjoy that. Maybe he gets off on making people suffer in the lake of fire.

Revelation 21:4-8
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true." He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

[Esquilax]

Well he does a legions of people on earth mindlessly worshiping and praising him, what kind of perfect being would not enjoy that. Maybe he gets off on making people suffer in the lake of fire.

That's exactly right: GC has now posited a series of actions that, if committed by any other being, he would find to be unacceptably arrogant, self aggrandizing and cruel. Not that he'll see it that way, of course.

I await his trad, insulting response with weary condemnation.

[Lemonvariable72]

Well he does a legions of people on earth mindlessly worshiping and praising him, what kind of perfect being would not enjoy that. Maybe he gets off on making people suffer in the lake of fire.

That's exactly right: GC has now posited a series of actions that, if committed by any other being, he would find to be unacceptably arrogant, self aggrandizing and cruel. Not that he'll see it that way, of course.

I await his trad, insulting response with weary condemnation.

I think that it shows the god of the bible as a reflection of the men that created him. Greedy, arrogant, prone to rage, possessive, sexist, and short sighted. These were men that feared enlightenment, hence it was the evil Satan that humanity the ability to think and weigh good and evil. God wants us as children, just like the leaders of the day that wrote the old testament.
No doubt GC will hit it out of the park with his usual wit and finesse. He is so unlike Jesus it is astonishing.

[T.J.]

God created the universe because He loves you.

Thoughts on the hell expansion pack?

That explains why almost all of the universe is entirely unsuitable for life.

Bet he makes you have to purchase the DLC to make it breathable >.>

No because a prefect being is by definetion perfectly for fulfilled and therefore does not want anything. Wanting would mean he was unfulfilled and thus imperfect

-Christopher Lambert voice- Exactly.

[Lemonvariable72]

God created the universe because He loves you.

Thoughts on the hell expansion pack?

That explains why almost all of the universe is entirely unsuitable for life.

Bet he makes you have to purchase the DLC to make it breathable >.>

No because a prefect being is by definetion perfectly for fulfilled and therefore does not want anything. Wanting would mean he was unfulfilled and thus imperfect

-Christopher Lambert voice- Exactly.

......You make god sound like he is the CEO of EA games

[Zen Badger]

Love gives and never ceases giving.

So does herpes.