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Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
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 (December 4, 2013 at 3:43 pm)Sleepy Wrote: If he was married while committing the rape and his wife was readily available to him for sexual intercourse than many top scholars believe to first give him 100 lashings and then execute himTwo questions: A) What does the bit in bold there mean, exactly? B) What if it was his wife he had raped?  (December 6, 2013 at 7:11 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: A) What does the bit in bold there mean, exactly? I think it means that Sleepy's priorities place infidelity above sexual assault in terms of importance.  Why else would he even bother putting that in? Oh, unless this is one of those "forced to marry your rapist" deals, if the rapist was unmarried.
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December 6, 2013 at 7:25 am
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2013 at 7:26 am by NoraBrimstone.)
(December 6, 2013 at 7:21 am)Esquilax Wrote:I got that. But what is "readily available"? Is it like, right there in the room naked, with her legs in the air? Lol(December 6, 2013 at 7:11 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: A) What does the bit in bold there mean, exactly? (December 6, 2013 at 7:25 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: I got that. But what is "readily available"? As in like, right there in the room naked, with her legs in the air? The scary part is, I think "readily available," in the Islamic sense, just means "existing."
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (December 6, 2013 at 7:26 am)Esquilax Wrote:That's kinda my fear, too. Or just "not on her period" or something. But that can't be right, can it? Dopey Sleepy has made it clear that Islam doesn't sexually objectify women.(December 6, 2013 at 7:25 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: I got that. But what is "readily available"? As in like, right there in the room naked, with her legs in the air? (December 6, 2013 at 7:32 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: That's kinda my fear, too. Or just "not on her period" or something. But that can't be right, can it? Dopey Sleepy has made it clear that Islam doesn't sexually objectify women. Which brings us around to the usual "it's not X if Allah/God/other says it" doublethink. Or maybe, if he's feeling really fresh, Sleepy will hit is with the rare "No True Muslim" fallacy! All it'll come down to is that, except in the cases in which Islam does sexually objectify women, it doesn't sexually objectify women. 
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Let's just wait for his response before jumping on things that haven't been said here.... yet. Lol
Readily available means if she's not sick, incapicitated. It means exactly what it says. They're able to have sex if they want
It's a sin and not permissible for a wife to refuse her husband for sex and not permissible for a husband to refuse sex to his wife either.
It's part of the marital contact. Is it unethical and a sin if he forces himself upon her and harms her. But there is no legal punishment. The key is to remember sex is to be exclusive between husband and wife and wife or husband denying each other sex is an illogical concept unless one is injured, hurt, or some other serious problem |
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