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Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 4:48 pm)Sleepy Wrote: That's incorrect because Allah does not pre determine what is going to happen. Any immoral actions are taken by individuals themselves and not because Allah is forcing anybody to do so.

So Allah does not know the future?
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
Nineteen Wrote:2:19 Or like a storm from the sky, in it are darkness, thunder, and lightning. They place their fingers in their ears from stunning noises out of fear of death; and God is aware of the ingrates.

And like pigs they ingratiate themselves upon others with their smell, and yet they enjoy the smell of their own shit.

-me-
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 4:49 pm)Nineteen Wrote:
(December 14, 2013 at 4:40 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Quran 3:54
"And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners."

Plan is different from deceit as Allah is not deceitful with anyone. Allah is the best planners. Atheists can attempt to scheme and plot but it will backfire on them indeed because Allah is Most Majestic and Most Wise.


2:19 Or like a storm from the sky, in it are darkness, thunder, and lightning. They place their fingers in their ears from stunning noises out of fear of death; and God is aware of the ingrates.

You ever thought that maybe we are listening after all? Nineteen, what you lack here are presentation skills; you lack the evidence to back your claims. Words from an ancient text are not reliable as proof either; they are just more claims. Unsubstantiated claims will be discarded. Do you understand what that means? مفهوم؟
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 4:49 pm)Nineteen Wrote: 2:19 Or like a storm from the sky, in it are darkness, thunder, and lightning. They place their fingers in their ears from stunning noises out of fear of death; and God is aware of the ingrates.

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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 4:48 pm)Sleepy Wrote: That's incorrect because Allah does not pre determine what is going to happen. Any immoral actions are taken by individuals themselves and not because Allah is forcing anybody to do so.

WHAT? BLASPHEMY! What did Allah tell Jeremiah in Jeremiah 1:5? Allah said:

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

Jeremiah is a prophet in Islam. Allah says before he even entered his mother's womb he KNEW him! And already knew he would become a prophet, he knew what sandwich he would eat before going to work, for, Allah is all knowing.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 4:55 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: You ever thought that maybe we are listening after all? Nineteen, what you lack here are presentation skills; you lack the evidence to back your claims. Words from an ancient text are not reliable as proof either; they are just more claims. Unsubstantiated claims will be discarded. Do you understand what that means? مفهوم؟

25:55 They serve besides God what does not benefit them nor harm them. The ingrate is always set against his Lord.

Like this , I will reply people with verses .

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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
Quoting from the Koran will get you on the ignore list if you are a none believer?

This is what I call an hypocrite. You can use quotes, but we cannot? You barely understand what you are practicing. You ignore the rules that you break, but criticize all who do not adhere to your ancient text.

You cannot even debate and defend your religious beliefs properly. Your obeisance to the religion shows your lack of education. You must live in the middle east. The middle east are full of very arrogant religious coots like yourself. Follow my train of thought or die. I am better than everyone else, and all nonbelievers are dumb. No wonder the middle east has yet to produce anything of value to society in hundreds of years. Remember, all the buildings and technology in the current middle east was created by nonbeliever westerners.
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Let her keep digging her grave. She will be banned soon enough.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 5:01 pm)Nineteen Wrote:
(December 14, 2013 at 4:55 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: You ever thought that maybe we are listening after all? Nineteen, what you lack here are presentation skills; you lack the evidence to back your claims. Words from an ancient text are not reliable as proof either; they are just more claims. Unsubstantiated claims will be discarded. Do you understand what that means? مفهوم؟

25:55 They serve besides God what does not benefit them nor harm them. The ingrate is always set against his Lord.

Like this , I will reply people with verses .



Ooh, yet another original thought. You're on fire, girl!
Wanna have a verse war? I've been in a few.


“I would rather be a conscious wrongdoer than a mindless saint.”
― Habeeb Akande
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 4:49 pm)Nineteen Wrote:
(December 14, 2013 at 4:40 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Quran 3:54
"And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners."

Plan is different from deceit as Allah is not deceitful with anyone. Allah is the best planners. Atheists can attempt to scheme and plot but it will backfire on them indeed because Allah is Most Majestic and Most Wise.


2:19 Or like a storm from the sky, in it are darkness, thunder, and lightning. They place their fingers in their ears from stunning noises out of fear of death; and God is aware of the ingrates.

Actually, I think you'll find that in this day and age people continue to believe in deities because they fear death.

But, of course, if you people are going to continue quoting your little books as though they're facts, I'm going to continue quoting Terry Pratchett.

“There is a rumour going around that I have found God. I think this is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.”

Wink Shades

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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