Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

[snowtracks]

well not much interest in voting on my a. einstein signature, but am going ahead to remove it to reduce the rancor that it has caused. words like 'deceptive', 'fallacious', and 'quote-mining' (to bolster my position) have been used; and there is one other important reason: the atheists that were converted to theism because of the signature can now convert back to being an atheist in clear conscious and without impunity.

[feeling]

well not much interest in voting on my a. einstein signature, but am going ahead to remove it to reduce the rancor that it has caused. words like 'deceptive', 'fallacious', and 'quote-mining' (to bolster my position) have been used; and there is one other important reason: the atheists that were converted to theism because of the signature can now convert back to being an atheist in clear conscious and without impunity.

It's ok I don't hate you.

[Brakeman]

well not much interest in voting on my a. einstein signature, but am going ahead to remove it to reduce the rancor that it has caused. words like 'deceptive', 'fallacious', and 'quote-mining' (to bolster my position) have been used; and there is one other important reason: the atheists that were converted to theism because of the signature can now convert back to being an atheist in clear conscious and without impunity.

Thanks, for freeing us of our Einstein god, snowey.

Speaking of Einstein's work on energy, how are demons powered? Where do they get their power to do evil deeds and trick and deceive men. Do they eat and metabolize? Photosynthesis maybe?

[feeling]

well not much interest in voting on my a. einstein signature, but am going ahead to remove it to reduce the rancor that it has caused. words like 'deceptive', 'fallacious', and 'quote-mining' (to bolster my position) have been used; and there is one other important reason: the atheists that were converted to theism because of the signature can now convert back to being an atheist in clear conscious and without impunity.

You know I read your topic with the numbers and I think you're kinda cute. I like you

[Angrboda]

It was probably an intrusion into our world from a parallel Paul from one of those other time dimensions Snowy keeps asserting exists.

the space-time theorems (authors ellis, hawking, penrose) which are an extension of general relativity conclude that space and time had a beginning 14 billions years ago.

Bullshit. Penrose's Conformal Cyclic Cosmology postulates that the universe need not have a beginning at all. Hawking postulates a singularity, whose causal origin cannot be known. And to the best of my knowledge of Ellis, he doesn't even address the problem in any tangible way. Now you're just making shit up and attributing it to famous physicists. Isn't it a sin in your universe to tell lies like this?

[Cyberman]

well not much interest in voting on my a. einstein signature, but am going ahead to remove it to reduce the rancor that it has caused. words like 'deceptive', 'fallacious', and 'quote-mining' (to bolster my position) have been used; and there is one other important reason: the atheists that were converted to theism because of the signature can now convert back to being an atheist in clear conscious and without impunity.

Derp.

[snowtracks]

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well not much interest in voting on my a. einstein signature, but am going ahead to remove it to reduce the rancor that it has caused. words like 'deceptive', 'fallacious', and 'quote-mining' (to bolster my position) have been used; and there is one other important reason: the atheists that were converted to theism because of the signature can now convert back to being an atheist in clear conscious and without impunity.

Thanks, for freeing us of our Einstein god, snowey.

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Speaking of Einstein's work on energy, how are demons powered? Where do they get their power to do evil deeds and trick and deceive men. Do they eat and metabolize? Photosynthesis maybe?
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even while you're chortling (which i don't mind) about evil spirits, maybe you can still learn something about them. these supernatural (and as such: not limited the the physics of our 4 dim's of space and time) created entities are fallen angels that are under the control of satan and their major purpose is deception; aka, false religions. their exact numbers in not known but they consist of 1/3 of the angelic realm. their final destiny is hell along with satan, the future antichrist and false prophet.

[Esquilax]

even while you're chortling (which i don't mind) about evil spirits, maybe you can still learn something about them. these supernatural (and as such: not limited the the physics of our 4 dim's of space and time) created entities are fallen angels that are under the control of satan and their major purpose is deception; aka, false religions. their exact numbers in not known but they consist of 1/3 of the angelic realm. their final destiny is hell along with satan, the future antichrist and false prophet.

I see you want the chortling to continue: that's good, because the best way to keep it up is to continue rambling on about the magic time travelling capabilities of demons, while providing zero evidence for them. Assertions heaped atop assertions does not evidence make.

[Jackalope]

@Snowflake (as in precious little snowflake) - way to assert properties of entities who's existence is merely asserted, and not demonstrated.

Stuff that in your pipe and ponder why we aren't taking this bullshit seriously.

[snowtracks]

the space-time theorems (authors ellis, hawking, penrose) which are an extension of general relativity conclude that space and time had a beginning 14 billions years ago.

Bullshit. Penrose's Conformal Cyclic Cosmology postulates that the universe need not have a beginning at all. Hawking postulates a singularity, whose causal origin cannot be known. And to the best of my knowledge of Ellis, he doesn't even address the problem in any tangible way. Now you're just making shit up and attributing it to famous physicists. Isn't it a sin in your universe to tell lies like this?

flawed analysis, but nice try though.

The Nature of Space and Time, Hawking stated, "Today virtually everyone agrees that the universe and time itself had a beginning at the Big Bang": ref - Hawking, S.W. and Penrose, R. 1996. The Nature of Space and Time, p. 20.
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book - The Large Scale Structure of Space-Time - hawking and ellis - "Einstein's General Theory of Relativity leads to two remarkable predictions: first, that the ultimate destiny of many massive stars is to undergo gravitational collapse and to disappear from view, leaving behind a 'black hole' in space; and secondly, that there will exist singularities in space-time itself. These singularities are places where space-time begins or ends, and the presently known laws of physics break down. They will occur inside black holes, and in the past are what might be construed as the beginning of the universe. To show how these predictions arise, the authors discuss the General Theory of Relativity in the large. Starting with a precise formulation of the theory and an account of the necessary background of differential geometry, the significance of space-time curvature is discussed and the global properties of a number of exact solutions of Einstein's field equations are examined". from - http://books.google.com/books/about/The_...gG_KI7Ll8C

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@Snowflake (as in precious little snowflake) - way to assert properties of entities who's existence is merely asserted, and not demonstrated.

Stuff that in your pipe and ponder why we aren't taking this bullshit seriously.

seriously, or not seriously doesn't matter.