I'm not leaving until I convert someone.

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

If its still here tomorrow I'll start shitting on him and his god with wild abandon.

I hate to waste good material on one-shit wonders.

Careful now, with the frequency you use the word "shit" one might think you have a fixation with feces, maybe even a fetish.

[Mr. Moncrieff]

A faeces fetishist?

[Alex K]

A faeces fetishist?

Don't tell me you didn't know that is a thing

[max-greece]

People,

Lets tread a little gently here. The OP is a child - I'm guessing 13 to 15.

Now if he could get his parents to come on here......sure......but lets not roast the little one.

To the OP:

Any chance of getting mummy and daddy to take part? We really would like to speak to them about child abuse.

[Lemonvariable72]

PLEASE just read this atheists:
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidence...od-faq.htm
If you honestly read this and can tell me in detail why it's wrong, I'll leave.

What is the best evidence for God?

The best evidence for God includes documented historical evidence, viewing the creation, and the testimony of Jesus Christ. When we claim these as the best evidence for God, we are not just taking a religious position.

Evidence For God – The Big Three

The Bible is the most extensive and authenticated historical document in existence. It has extensive falsifiable details that have proven to be accurate by archeology. The integrity of the handed down text has been proven to be virtually the same as the original text or text documented soon after the historical events.

Except that we now have good evidence that the jews were never held in egypt, there was no massive davidic empire, No genocide by the jews on people of the midian, No camels in the time of abraham, Cyrus the II overthrew babylon.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/staks-rosc...08123.html
http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/david.html

C. S. Lewis stated that Jesus was either Lord, liar, or lunatic. Josh McDowell referred to this argument as a “trilemma.” The argument was that Jesus couldn’t be just a great moral teacher as some have argued. He either had to be Lord, liar, or lunatic! Since He didn’t fit the stereotype of a liar or lunatic at all, He had to be Lord. The evidence for Jesus to be God is overwhelming even though many do not accept Him now just as they didn’t accept Him as God when He was on earth. However, that lack of acceptance has nothing to do with the facts.

False dichitomy, There are more more option then that, what if jesus was simply a tezacher at the time and his words were distorted? Or what if he never really existed and was created and used for politcal or perosnal gain.

The life, death, and resurrection of Jesus is the best documented event in history. Details of this event were predicted by more than 100 unique prophecies in the Old Testament written long before the event. Many of the prophecies were the kind that couldn’t be faked. Jesus claimed to be God in the flesh. His documented wisdom confounded His adversaries and His miracles verified He is God.

Here is a list of prophecies jesus did not forfill, relevant to the messiah
http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html

Also, we have a great record of solar eclipses at that times as well history in general. Neither seneca or pliny or any other contemporary naturalist records any eclipse that copuld coincide with the crucifixion and despite it being the silver age of latin literature not a single contemporary historian mentions him. And lots of whackos just like jesus do get mentioned, such as the egyptian, simon of perea and apollonius of tyana.

Another evidence that God exists is that we can see Him in His creation. The concept and design of our universe necessitate an intelligent designer. That same Bible that has been shown over and over again to be true and verifiable makes that assertion. It states in Romans 1:20 (NKJV) that, “For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse. . .”

To fully accept the conclusion that we have good evidence for God’s existence, we need to lay aside our presuppositions and evaluate the evidence at face value. Many have set out to prove that God did not exist and after examining the evidence have instead found that God does exist. - See more at: http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidence...8pNX9.dpuf

I did look at the evidence without presupposition. You obviously haven't.

[Mr. Moncrieff]

/thread.

[là bạn điên]

Is he dead yet?

[Kayenneh]

Lets tread a little gently here. The OP is a child - I'm guessing 13 to 15.

Though I understand your sentiment Max, I do not wholly agree with you. My "career" as a forumist started when I was around that age, and believe me, I knew exactly what I was getting into when I started frequenting message boards. If you are old enough to log on and type on your computer, you are old enough to be called out on your bullshit. I am not for mollycoddling someone because of their age, that would be discriminatory. The beauty of the internet is that it brings everyone to the same level in the sense, that if you don't tell your age, who knows if you're 15 or 65? If you, like JesusLover1, trods in, thinking you are the whole ass, when you're in fact not even the shadow of half of the hole, I don't care about age, I care about the argument brought to the discussion. And I see it fit to reply in kind. JesusLover1 is sanctimonious and ignorant, yet clearly has an aura of false superiority. I think by shaking the kid and showing her that reality is in fact a façade, is the kindest thing we can do.

[Cato]

Lets tread a little gently here. The OP is a child - I'm guessing 13 to 15.

I'm confused. By 'gently' are you suggesting we drive the steamroller faster or slower?

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

I started debating poli sci majors on the NationStates forums when I was 14, and I learned a lot, and I might not have if they knew my age and gave me "NationStates forums lite."