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RE: The End Times are Nigh
April 15, 2014 at 3:05 pm
(April 15, 2014 at 1:08 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: "Blood moon" has nothing to do with the rapture. The passage in Joel being used is in reference to the tribulation period not a sign of the rapture (of which there are no 'signs'). Given that Isreal has not yet built the temple, nor has the abomination of desolation been placed in the Holy place, Joel doesn't apply. It's (the blood moon) just a reflection of God's glory to be enjoyed.
You mean another wonderful natural spectacle.
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RE: The End Times are Nigh
April 15, 2014 at 3:24 pm
(April 15, 2014 at 12:33 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote: At 49 years old, i have lost rack of the number of "end of the worlds" that have come and gone throughout my life. It's amazing to watch people continue to fall for it, though. Especially the specific dates or date ranges. The general "end is near and sooner than you think" is laughable enough without giving some sort of time limit or specific date/occurrence. Perhaps people will never stop falling for it.
My mother (a JW) handed me a JW pamphlet for their memorial (their only religious observance, basically a once-a-year mass) and told me that "they [presumably, the Watchtower Society) are saying that this might be the last one, because Armageddon is so close." She reiterated this the other day when a friend (who is still a JW, if nominally so) was with me. She has been a JW since the late 60s, and can remember the hysteria over the 1975 prophecies, but like many JWs she has bought into the revamped explanations ("they didn't say for sure it would happen, people just assumed..."). She has been there for many of their "it's right around the corner" warnings of the past 30 years and yet each new pronouncement seems to her like the very first one.
I guess the desire for the end of the world to happen is so strong that people will revise their memories and discard the many times that previous predictions failed in order to treat the latest one as if it's the first real prediction and therefore must be true. The desire for such a momentous event to happen during our lifetimes is equally strong, making it more likely that we desperately want to believe it.
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RE: The End Times are Nigh
April 15, 2014 at 3:27 pm
(April 15, 2014 at 1:08 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: It's (the blood moon) just a reflection of God's glory to be enjoyed. Or the molecules in the Earth's atmosphere refracting the sun's light onto the moonscape. Beautiful, to be sure, but not any sign of supernatural phenomena.
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RE: The End Times are Nigh
April 15, 2014 at 8:36 pm
(April 15, 2014 at 3:24 pm)Tonus Wrote: (April 15, 2014 at 12:33 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote: At 49 years old, i have lost rack of the number of "end of the worlds" that have come and gone throughout my life. It's amazing to watch people continue to fall for it, though. Especially the specific dates or date ranges. The general "end is near and sooner than you think" is laughable enough without giving some sort of time limit or specific date/occurrence. Perhaps people will never stop falling for it.
My mother (a JW) handed me a JW pamphlet for their memorial (their only religious observance, basically a once-a-year mass) and told me that "they [presumably, the Watchtower Society) are saying that this might be the last one, because Armageddon is so close." She reiterated this the other day when a friend (who is still a JW, if nominally so) was with me. She has been a JW since the late 60s, and can remember the hysteria over the 1975 prophecies, but like many JWs she has bought into the revamped explanations ("they didn't say for sure it would happen, people just assumed..."). She has been there for many of their "it's right around the corner" warnings of the past 30 years and yet each new pronouncement seems to her like the very first one.
I guess the desire for the end of the world to happen is so strong that people will revise their memories and discard the many times that previous predictions failed in order to treat the latest one as if it's the first real prediction and therefore must be true. The desire for such a momentous event to happen during our lifetimes is equally strong, making it more likely that we desperately want to believe it.
That is one seriously sadistic cult.
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RE: The End Times are Nigh
April 17, 2014 at 12:32 pm
I'd like to repurpose this thread to post ridiculous things that make you think the world is going to shit.
I'll start:
The Pop Stars in Japan are holograms now. That's a thing.
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RE: The End Times are Nigh
April 20, 2014 at 7:16 pm
(April 15, 2014 at 1:57 am)psychoslice Wrote: I don't believe in all that crap, but it does give me a good laugh when it doesn't come about.
Actually - the writer is correct about the "end of time" - however - he just needs to write about the Extinction of religion - which is rapidly approaching
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RE: The End Times are Nigh
April 20, 2014 at 7:33 pm
http://www.armageddononline.org/failed_armageddon5.php
This site goes on for pages and still ends at 2,000. Fucking jesus is very late.
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RE: The End Times are Nigh
May 1, 2014 at 5:54 am
(April 15, 2014 at 1:29 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: This year's blood moon tetrad seems to be getting people rapture ready.
http://www.religionnews.com/2014/04/14/b...hristians/
Quote:Recent books capitalizing on the event include “Blood Moons: Decoding the Imminent Heavenly Signs” by Washington state author Mark Biltz; “Blood Moons Rising: Bible Prophecy, Israel, and the Four Blood Moons” by Oklahoma pastor Mark Hitchcock; and ”Four Blood Moons: Something Is About to Change” by Texas megachurch pastor John Hagee.
Hagee’s book is drawing the most attention, with his book now No. 4 on The New York Times best-seller list in the advice/how to section, and No. 80 on USA Today’s best-seller list. The book by the controversial 74-year-old founder of San Antonio’s Cornerstone Church has also spent 152 days in Amazon’s top 100 books.
Doesn't get much better than that!
For those of us that are rational and just want to stare in awe at the wonderful spectacle that is a lunar eclipse, it is happening right around 2 am EDT over most of the continental US. If you're overcast or unlucky enough to be somewhere else, you can live stream it here. That stuff is B.S. they have been saying things like that for years.
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RE: The End Times are Nigh
May 2, 2014 at 1:50 am
The Old Testament Israelites/Hebrews/Jews used to have monthly parties celebrating the new moon. I wonder why people stopped doing those festivals? I guess the moon god lost popularity. It's too bad he didn't see it coming.
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