God - a study in pointlessness.

[coldwx]

The bible tells us that he said they would die. That doesn't mean that he didn't tell them anything else. Also, even if he didn't tell them, he wasn't required to. Do you think they would have made a different choice if he had?

That bit of information seems pretty important to leave out of scripture, given all the other nonsense that was kept in.
If he didn't tell them that makes it even more malicious, since the fate of the entire world and every person henceforth is forever altered.
It's a matter of having all the information before the choice is made. It seems God is great at not giving humanity all the info then blaming them for the mistakes they make.

[pocaracas]

The bible tells us that he said they would die. That doesn't mean that he didn't tell them anything else. Also, even if he didn't tell them, he wasn't required to. Do you think they would have made a different choice if he had?

That bit of information seems pretty important to leave out of scripture, given all the other nonsense that was kept in.
If he didn't tell them that makes it even more malicious, since the fate of the entire world and every person henceforth is forever altered.
It's a matter of having all the information before the choice is made. It seems God is great at not giving humanity all the info then blaming them for the mistakes they make.

So.... who wrote that part of the bible? Adam? Eve? Could they write?

[Lek]

That bit of information seems pretty important to leave out of scripture, given all the other nonsense that was kept in.
If he didn't tell them that makes it even more malicious, since the fate of the entire world and every person henceforth is forever altered.
It's a matter of having all the information before the choice is made. It seems God is great at not giving humanity all the info then blaming them for the mistakes they make.

So.... who wrote that part of the bible? Adam? Eve? Could they write?

Traditionally, Moses. There's some evidence of contributions by other writers.

[pocaracas]

So.... who wrote that part of the bible? Adam? Eve? Could they write?

Traditionally, Moses. There's some evidence of contributions by other writers.

Ok, let's work with that...
How did he (and they) get the info to write?
How accurate could the info be?

[Ryantology]

The bible tells us that he said they would die. That doesn't mean that he didn't tell them anything else. Also, even if he didn't tell them, he wasn't required to. Do you think they would have made a different choice if he had?

1. If the Bible is omitting facts, especially important ones like this, then it can not be trusted not to be omitting other facts, and it has no credibility as a source.
2. I don't think they had sufficient understanding of the consequences, regardless of what they were. Adam and Eve did not know what human death and misery was. They didn't know what good and evil was, so how could they know that disobeying God was evil? If I told you "Don't you dare learn about fire, or I will burn you with it", and you, in the same childlike state Adam and Even were in, lack understanding of even the basic concept of what fire or burning is, what sense does this threat even make to you? That's what makes the whole thing a stupid farce in the first place.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Actually, it did. If they hadn't disobeyed God the world would not have changed. He told them "read my lips; don't eat of the fruit of that tree." Sounds pretty clear to me. If he hadn't taken action, he would have been a liar. I guess I don't have much to say about the subject.

The Bible says that you should marry your close relatives. Is it a good idea to ignore that command?

Judging by the quality of replies, what makes you think anyone in his family pole has?

[Tonus]

The tree that they ate from was the knowledge of good and evil. Satan told them the lie that they would not die if they ate from the tree, but he also told the truth when he said they would "be like God, knowing good and evil," Genesis 3:4.

Which means that they had no knowledge of good or evil, and apparently god did not want them to have it. He just wanted them to blindly obey, or he would kill them.

[Subhan Ahmad]

And that is also why people like you are so dangerous and unpredictable.

Rather then wait for people who don't believe in the same imaginary sky being as you to go to hell, you and your ilk are more than content to make it a hell here on Earth.

I hope you're proud of yourself.

Brother we are both human beings. Any kind of pain hurts me as much as it is going to hurt you. Why would I wish for you to be in pain?

[Clueless Morgan]

Everything that God does is love.

The bible tells us that he said they would die. That doesn't mean that he didn't tell them anything else.

So you get to imagine any additional proclamations, warnings, tirades, commands or decrees you want simply to suit your own interpretation of the bible, then?

Why?

[Subhan Ahmad]

What doesn't make sense to me is: Why is faith a requirement?
Why the need for a book?... specially a book that comes after other similar books already exist...

Brother imagine one thing. You go to your employer. Tell him to his face that you don't believe that he is your employer and you start doing your work against all the standard operating procedures. Do you think you will remain part of the company for long?

Faith is very important brother for any system to work. Tell me does any system works if you don't have confidence and trust on it?

You don't even get a software if you don't agree to the terms and agreements.
Can you even live in a country without abiding to its laws ?

Again tell me honestly if all this system does turn out to be true, do you really think a faithful and the unfaithful should be equal in front of God? If God does exits and treats both the believer and the unbeliever equally then this is a big injustice.

Quran says

"[Mention, O Muhammad], the Day We will call forth every people with their record [of deeds]. Then whoever is given his record in his right hand - those will read their records, and injustice will not be done to them, [even] as much as a thread [inside the date seed]." (17:71)

Why the need for a book?... specially a book that comes after other similar books already exist...

That is good that you realized the similarity. Since the beginning, human beings have been tested with the message that was essentially the same. And the message was conveyed through the prophet at the given time. Every time the prophet passed away and the true message got corrupted over the time, a new prophet came to restore the original message. But this chain of Prophets ended with Muhammad (peace be upon him). Why it ended? Because the message is well preserved in Quran and will remain preserved till the end of time.

Since the message was same, all the humanity faced and is facing the same test through different scenarios.

For me this makes totally sense that only one book is determining the rise and fall of individuals, societies and nations because:
1) There is only one Creator. One God means one message for whole humanity.
2) If there was even one more books then it would bring chaos. Two books mean two books with different dos and don'ts. Consider you and I follow different books. In your book drinking alcohol was allowed and in my it was prohibited. Do you think this makes sense?
3) All the dos and donts are actually whats good for us and what is not good for us. Like you get an instruction manual when you buy a machine. Think of two different instruction manuals for the same machine.