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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 5:18 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 3:57 pm)BlackMason Wrote: (May 20, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Actually something comes from nothing all the time. Read some quantum physics.
How is nothing defined in quantum physics?
"According to quantum theory, the vacuum contains neither matter nor energy, but it does contain fluctuations, transitions between something and nothing in which potential existence can be transformed into real existence by the addition of energy.(Energy and matter are equivalent, since all matter ultimately consists of packets of energy.) Thus, the vacuum's totally empty space is actually a seething turmoil of creation and annihilation, which to the ordinary world appears calm because the scale of fluctuations in the vacuum is tiny and the fluctuations tend to cancel each other out."
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May 20, 2014 at 6:08 pm
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(May 19, 2014 at 10:33 pm)MrWizard Wrote: Can you prove something came from nothing?
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May 20, 2014 at 8:32 pm
(May 19, 2014 at 10:37 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Can you prove your god came from nothing?
http://youtu.be/ODetOE6cbbc
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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 9:45 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 8:32 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: (May 19, 2014 at 10:37 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Can you prove your god came from nothing?
http://youtu.be/ODetOE6cbbc
I absolutely love this Darkmatter vid.
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RE: Atheists
May 21, 2014 at 12:47 am
(May 19, 2014 at 10:37 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Can you prove your god came from nothing?
Do you really think that everything has always existed in its current form?
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May 21, 2014 at 1:16 am
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(May 20, 2014 at 5:18 pm)Losty Wrote: (May 20, 2014 at 3:57 pm)BlackMason Wrote: How is nothing defined in quantum physics?
"According to quantum theory, the vacuum contains neither matter nor energy, but it does contain fluctuations, transitions between something and nothing in which potential existence can be transformed into real existence by the addition of energy."
I rest my case
(May 19, 2014 at 10:37 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Can you prove your god came from nothing?
This is the work of a troll.
This the shit that makes atheist look just as clowny as their theist counterparts. There's no shame in being honest and saying, "I don't know but god did it sure ain't the answer".
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RE: Atheists
May 21, 2014 at 2:56 am
(May 21, 2014 at 1:16 am)BlackMason Wrote: (May 20, 2014 at 5:18 pm)Losty Wrote: "According to quantum theory, the vacuum contains neither matter nor energy, but it does contain fluctuations, transitions between something and nothing in which potential existence can be transformed into real existence by the addition of energy."
I rest my case
I'm glad I could assist you in making your case :p
Now if anyone would be so kind as to translate this into terms I can understand, that would be super awesome
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RE: Atheists
May 21, 2014 at 6:17 am
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(May 21, 2014 at 2:56 am)Losty Wrote: I'm glad I could assist you in making your case :p
Now if anyone would be so kind as to translate this into terms I can understand, that would be super awesome
My point was simply that our traditional concept of nothing most likely doesn't exist. Then someone mentioned quantum physics' version of nothing. You dug up the definition which pretty much suggests that something (the transitions) need to be acted on by something else (energy).
Thus, traditional concept of nothing < quantum physics definition of nothing.
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RE: Atheists
May 21, 2014 at 1:05 pm
(May 21, 2014 at 6:17 am)BlackMason Wrote: (May 21, 2014 at 2:56 am)Losty Wrote: I'm glad I could assist you in making your case :p
Now if anyone would be so kind as to translate this into terms I can understand, that would be super awesome
My point was simply that our traditional concept of nothing most likely doesn't exist. Then someone mentioned quantum physics' version of nothing. You dug up the definition which pretty much suggests that something (the transitions) need to be acted on by something else (energy).
Thus, traditional concept of nothing < quantum physics definition of nothing.
Lol I got your point. I was more looking for an easier to understand quantum physics definition of nothing. Although, I think it's more a problem with being able to grasp the possibility than understanding the definition I guess. A ball of transitions which will become a something when you add energy? I always a transition was a verb not a noun. Hmmm
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RE: Atheists
May 21, 2014 at 1:47 pm
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I was about to post here, but meh, I got nothing
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