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RE: I hate human race,civilization and people in groups.
June 2, 2014 at 6:37 pm (This post was last modified: June 2, 2014 at 6:42 pm by thesummerqueen.)
(June 2, 2014 at 6:32 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: And if you think this isn't true,well read on then: Why do you think you feel attracted to some girls and to other not (or to some males and to other not). We can't fall in love with whoever because this way we can't have healthy offspring's. The will to survive ties us to people which whom we can have smart and healthy kids and we are dissuaded from the people who will give us an bad offspring. Love in short is nothing more than willful expression of wanting to continue life!
hahahahaha
You've never been inside a Wal-Mart have you.
(June 2, 2014 at 6:13 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: If you like that movie because it makes your taste fine good for you,but if you like that movie just because it is popular and everybody is watching it you are following the crowd! If you like some food because you like the taste yeeey good for you,but if you eat only spaceflight because everyone does it you are a mold
Your English is understandable enough - this particular quote is why I think you're being condescending. It's similar to the "fake geek" shit people like to cry about all the time. Geeks who were picked on for liking comics in high school are bitching because now even jocks like the movies Marvel is putting out. Instead of realizing that it's really cool that we live in a time period where the stuff we liked to read in books is capable of being realized on screen, they're shouting "YOU JUST LIKE IT BECAUSE IT'S POPULAR!!" instead of embracing the new common appreciation people have of a character or story. Wtf, what if the only reason I found out something existed is because it got popular? Isn't the fact that I like it enough of a reason to leave me alone to like it? Why does the way it got to me have to matter? You sound like a hipster. Maybe I only tasted spaghetti because it's so popular here in America. So what. You can't know why anyone likes something unless you ask every single individual why they like a certain thing or other. How about instead of assuming people just jump on bandwagons, you ask your philosophical self why bandwagons start to begin with. Hint: it's because a lot of people got together who realized they all liked the same thing individually and they might as well "band together."
RE: I hate human race,civilization and people in groups.
June 2, 2014 at 6:44 pm
(June 2, 2014 at 6:17 pm)One Above All Wrote:
(June 2, 2014 at 5:55 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm not claiming that I'm special or anything. But lets reflect on this. I'm special In a way because I have different will than you,my genes are unique and no other organism in the entire universe doesn't have the same genes as I do,no one looks like me,no one has the same voice as I,...no matter how I look at myself I'm unique to every single thing and you are unique in your own way, we are all unique so you who are claiming that,I think I'm special or narcissistic yes I'm! And you all think that you are special as well because if you would not think that you are special or unique or smarter or anything you would already commit suicide! It is human nature to thing it is more superior than its peers this is what is keeping us alive.If you think you are unimportant and everyone are better than you you will get depressed and suicidal but the thoughts that you are superior and somehow better at some things than your peers is keeping you alive
First you say you're not claiming you're special. Then you say you are special. Make up your mind! Or, better yet, face the truth: if everyone is special, nobody is. Being unique doesn't make you special because everything in the Universe, from elementary particles to the Universe itself and everything in between, is unique. There are never two things that are exactly the same. In fact, such a thing would violate the laws of physics.
Thinking you are unimportant is unhealthy, yes. But so is thinking you're better than everyone else. Both are false ideas. The former can be proven false by the mere fact that, because you're here, you are affecting the world. The latter I demonstrated myself (although anyone can do it) by showing my accomplishments. The fact that you seem to be refusing to accept them tells me you are a narcissist. The beliefs that you're unimportant or better than everyone else are delusions, plain and simple. They are demonstrably false, yet people cling to those ideas; the very definition of "delusion".
If you need to fool yourself into believing you're better than everyone just to keep yourself from committing suicide, I recommend a psychologist/counselor (and I mean this as honest concern; not to belittle you. There's nothing wrong with talking to a psychologist/counselor).
Pride is a part of human nature,Just like to much hate harms the body but it is still needed for our survival same goes for pride. I feel pride to an certain degree. As all things on this planet It is just temporary just like all emotions it appears and then it disappears this is why this does not concern me one bit. Because in one week I will feel different emotions and experience different thoughts and different state of consciousness, arguments that seemed logical to me for today won't seem logical in two weeks or even less to me.
I'm the kind of people who change their thoughts emotions extremely fast.
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?
RE: I hate human race,civilization and people in groups.
June 2, 2014 at 6:48 pm
(June 2, 2014 at 6:32 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I do not give less fucks about IQ tests,I'm interested in philosophical thinking,maturity and ethics of a human beeing and don't give a fuck how well you can solve logical problems.
If you were really interested in philosophy, you'd know it's the basis for logical problems. How well you understand it is reflected in your IQ, and how well you can solve logical problems is reflected in your understanding of philosophy. Sort of a "the wheels on the bus go round and round" situation.
(June 2, 2014 at 6:32 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: Love: as far as I'm concerned love only exists so we can continue our species there is nothing deeper in love than passing your genes on.
Conflating love with lust again.
(June 2, 2014 at 6:32 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: You will deny this because our consciousness is split in two one is aware and other is unaware.The unaware part of consciousness is prone to will to survive.The aware part is obedient of the unaware and it can never know what the unaware part has in plan (if this makes any sense) The intellect can only understand how much is needed for passing our genes on. This is why we feel the need to see our girlfriend/boyfriend again,when unconscionably the will to pass our genes on is driving us forward.
Yeah... no. I have had the opportunity to have sex. Multiple opportunities, actually. I never went through with it. Mostly because I didn't love the girl enough (or at all).
The conscious mind receives impulses from the unconscious, but it can choose not to listen to them. This is what normal, healthy people do. Unhealthy people do the opposite: they let their subconscious run the show and ignore everything else. These people are sometimes referred to as "sociopaths".
(June 2, 2014 at 6:32 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: And if you think this isn't true,well read on then: Why do you think you feel attracted to some girls and to other not (or to some males and to other not). We can't fall in love with whoever because this way we can't have healthy offspring's. The will to survive ties us to people which whom we can have smart and healthy kids and we are dissuaded from the people who will give us an bad offspring. Love in short is nothing more than willful expression of wanting to continue life!
Physical attraction? I feel that because I think they're fucking hot. It's that simple. Psychological attraction? Because I think they're good people and would want to have a relationship with them. What I don't want is children. I don't like the little bastards. They suck. I don't want to reproduce. It's that simple.
The truth is absolute. Life forms are specks of specks (...) of specks of dust in the universe.
Why settle for normal, when you can be so much more? Why settle for something, when you can have everything?
RE: I hate human race,civilization and people in groups.
June 2, 2014 at 6:50 pm
No kids for me either. It's not that I don't like them, but I definitely don't feel an urge to reproduce. Sex? Yummy! Thought of kids that I have to take care of? Blech.
RE: I hate human race,civilization and people in groups.
June 2, 2014 at 6:52 pm
(June 2, 2014 at 6:44 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: Pride is a part of human nature,Just like to much hate harms the body but it is still needed for our survival same goes for pride. I feel pride to an certain degree. As all things on this planet
I doubt many creatures, aside from humans, feel pride. I doubt they can even process what that is. Regardless, being part of nature doesn't make it acceptable.
(June 2, 2014 at 6:44 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: It is just temporary just like all emotions it appears and then it disappears this is why this does not concern me one bit. Because in one week I will feel different emotions and experience different thoughts and different state of consciousness, arguments that seemed logical to me for today won't seem logical in two weeks or even less to me.
I'm the kind of people who change their thoughts emotions extremely fast.
It's called "being a hormonal, moody teenager", and is one of the most common aspects of people within your age group.
The truth is absolute. Life forms are specks of specks (...) of specks of dust in the universe.
Why settle for normal, when you can be so much more? Why settle for something, when you can have everything?
RE: I hate human race,civilization and people in groups.
June 2, 2014 at 7:00 pm (This post was last modified: June 2, 2014 at 7:02 pm by MountainsWinAgain.)
okey look I'm tired of argument with you guys you will have your view and I will have mine I tried explain mine as best I could,and you don't think that my views are possible so I will just stop here, so you follow your views and I will follow mine.
good night
(June 2, 2014 at 6:52 pm)One Above All Wrote:
(June 2, 2014 at 6:44 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: Pride is a part of human nature,Just like to much hate harms the body but it is still needed for our survival same goes for pride. I feel pride to an certain degree. As all things on this planet
I doubt many creatures, aside from humans, feel pride. I doubt they can even process what that is. Regardless, being part of nature doesn't make it acceptable.
(June 2, 2014 at 6:44 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: It is just temporary just like all emotions it appears and then it disappears this is why this does not concern me one bit. Because in one week I will feel different emotions and experience different thoughts and different state of consciousness, arguments that seemed logical to me for today won't seem logical in two weeks or even less to me.
I'm the kind of people who change their thoughts emotions extremely fast.
It's called "being a hormonal, moody teenager", and is one of the most common aspects of people within your age group.
yea because somehow when you are older once you get angry you stay angry or once you feel sad you stay sad or you have the same view about life for ever,the flow of thoughts and feelings effects all no matter how old you are
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?
RE: I hate human race,civilization and people in groups.
June 2, 2014 at 8:28 pm (This post was last modified: June 2, 2014 at 8:30 pm by KichigaiNeko.)
(June 1, 2014 at 5:51 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I feel hate, disappointment and shame towards human race and society we live in. I'm ashamed to call myself human even if there are some accomplishments we achieved that are marvelous like electricity,houses,music(or what was once called music),...but this in comparison with stupidity of our race is unbelievable. We are still rambling in 21 century who "created" our world,we are an species which is at war with it's self,the stupidity of an average human being is terrifying to me,the things we are doing to our environment,the way society treats individuals it is unbelievable just the fact that most people are motivated by exchanging green paper just pisses me off,... I could go on and bitch till eternity.
But I like the company of friends or individuals but I despise everything that extends over and individualistic personality.I hate being surrounded by people who are stupid,people with who you can't have any philosophical debates,people who don't know shit about anything and they just look at their phone all day and somehow think they are the smartest piss of crap on this entire planet,... Anyway do any of you feel such feelings towards the human species,do you have any advice you could share with me,...?
Excuse my English and sorry if this is in the wrong sub but this has been bugging me for a while.
Have you considered that you may be on the Autistic continuum?
It may also help if you stop viewing people as things. I think it is near nigh improbable to really know the depths of other people, hence your small group of friends.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
RE: I hate human race,civilization and people in groups.
June 2, 2014 at 9:38 pm (This post was last modified: June 2, 2014 at 9:42 pm by Ksa.)
Ok, I suspected it but now I am sure. It is not your English, it is the way your thoughts run through your head. There is high chance you have ADHD, so get evaluated by a psychiatrist right away. Look closely at what you wrote:
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm very familiar with everything you wrote. I'm mostly an cheerful young guy,I have done lots of psychedelics and cannabis in order to expend my consciousnesses and it was great,but now I'm making an pause until I finish school completely I will only smoke or eat mushrooms at festivals. I know ways how to stimulate dopamin,oxycontin,serotonin and endorphin. I mostly look for an sex partner because a relationship seems boring and waist of my identity and emotions,I can fall for an girls look anytime but I haven't found a girl which whom I would fall in love for her philosophy and looks this two factors are very important for me and if the girl does not posses that there isn't even a slight chance I will ever fall in love with her. I look for a partner for only one reason to escape loneliness but in the last few weeks I started to practice self love and the want for an partner just faded away.
Lets break it into thoughts:
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm very familiar with everything you wrote.
Here you acknowledged my ideas.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm mostly an cheerful young guy,I have done lots of psychedelics and cannabis in order to expend my consciousnesses and it was great
Here you give me the proof as to why you acknowledged it.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: but now I'm making an pause until I finish school completely
Here you say that you quit psychedelics because of your studies.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I will only smoke or eat mushrooms at festivals.
Now you tell me that's not quite exact, in fact you do take some occasionally, even-though you're in school.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I know ways how to stimulate dopamin,oxycontin,serotonin and endorphin.
Here oxycontin is not a natural brain chemical, in fact it's not even a molecule, it's a brand. So you can't stimulate it because your brain doesn't have it. What you can do is administer it. I think you're trying to show your knowledge in biochemistry.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I mostly look for an sex partner because a relationship seems boring and waist of my identity and emotions,I can fall for an girls look anytime but I haven't found a girl which whom I would fall in love for her philosophy and looks this two factors are very important for me and if the girl does not posses that there isn't even a slight chance I will ever fall in love with her.
Now you suddenly jump into sexuality without keeping the order. This scattered thoughts is typical of ADHD. You cannot even apply proper spacing because your thoughts run so fast through your head that you need to write those down as fast as possible before you forget them. Like, you literally have no time to hit the space bar.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I look for a partner for only one reason to escape loneliness but in the last few weeks I started to practice self love and the want for an partner just faded away.
Again, scattered thoughts. You move from one idea to another like a sailing boat from one wave to another, lead by the tormented sea.
Don't take this as an insult, but more as a life changer:
See a psychiatrist and give him/her a copy of this post that I wrote right now.
RE: I hate human race,civilization and people in groups.
June 2, 2014 at 10:59 pm (This post was last modified: June 2, 2014 at 11:07 pm by KichigaiNeko.)
Meant to say "Autistic Spectrum".
My son has been diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome. It doesn't mean anything is wrong with him, only that he has difficulty with his thoughts as KSA has pointed out and refers to anyone not in his clique as "those stupid humans"
Please get yourself checked out. If only to rule out ADHD et al. There is an enormous amount of help for people "on the Spectrum"
Oh, and you are right. There are some people to whom the word human does not apply and one feels ashamed to be lumped into that group.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
RE: I hate human race,civilization and people in groups.
June 3, 2014 at 6:08 am (This post was last modified: June 3, 2014 at 6:12 am by MountainsWinAgain.)
(June 2, 2014 at 9:38 pm)Ksa Wrote:
Ok, I suspected it but now I am sure. It is not your English, it is the way your thoughts run through your head. There is high chance you have ADHD, so get evaluated by a psychiatrist right away. Look closely at what you wrote:
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm very familiar with everything you wrote. I'm mostly an cheerful young guy,I have done lots of psychedelics and cannabis in order to expend my consciousnesses and it was great,but now I'm making an pause until I finish school completely I will only smoke or eat mushrooms at festivals. I know ways how to stimulate dopamin,oxycontin,serotonin and endorphin. I mostly look for an sex partner because a relationship seems boring and waist of my identity and emotions,I can fall for an girls look anytime but I haven't found a girl which whom I would fall in love for her philosophy and looks this two factors are very important for me and if the girl does not posses that there isn't even a slight chance I will ever fall in love with her. I look for a partner for only one reason to escape loneliness but in the last few weeks I started to practice self love and the want for an partner just faded away.
Lets break it into thoughts:
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm very familiar with everything you wrote.
Here you acknowledged my ideas.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm mostly an cheerful young guy,I have done lots of psychedelics and cannabis in order to expend my consciousnesses and it was great
Here you give me the proof as to why you acknowledged it.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: but now I'm making an pause until I finish school completely
Here you say that you quit psychedelics because of your studies.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I will only smoke or eat mushrooms at festivals.
Now you tell me that's not quite exact, in fact you do take some occasionally, even-though you're in school.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I know ways how to stimulate dopamin,oxycontin,serotonin and endorphin.
Here oxycontin is not a natural brain chemical, in fact it's not even a molecule, it's a brand. So you can't stimulate it because your brain doesn't have it. What you can do is administer it. I think you're trying to show your knowledge in biochemistry.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I mostly look for an sex partner because a relationship seems boring and waist of my identity and emotions,I can fall for an girls look anytime but I haven't found a girl which whom I would fall in love for her philosophy and looks this two factors are very important for me and if the girl does not posses that there isn't even a slight chance I will ever fall in love with her.
Now you suddenly jump into sexuality without keeping the order. This scattered thoughts is typical of ADHD. You cannot even apply proper spacing because your thoughts run so fast through your head that you need to write those down as fast as possible before you forget them. Like, you literally have no time to hit the space bar.
(June 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I look for a partner for only one reason to escape loneliness but in the last few weeks I started to practice self love and the want for an partner just faded away.
Again, scattered thoughts. You move from one idea to another like a sailing boat from one wave to another, lead by the tormented sea.
Don't take this as an insult, but more as a life changer:
See a psychiatrist and give him/her a copy of this post that I wrote right now.
yea,thanks for you help,but I think that staying and writing replays on this forum at 1 am can be the cause of my bad written sentences and the fact that when I'm under stress I type like this.
I had really tough emotional breakdown not long ago because of a girl. I won't go into details but it really screwed me up. In the end she ended up in the hospital because she took some pills and I took all the blame onto me (even If I wasn't to blame). I also had some background history of people who I considered to be good friends and I trusted them and in the end they betrayed me and I always forgive them and accepted them back,but this happened more than once almost all people I loved betrayed me and this left an big hole in my heart. And when that girl did what she did to me everything from the past and the doings of that girl collided together and I entered a phase of "extreme" depression I cried everyday at random times,my eyes were fucking red as hell,my mom and dad were really hurt because of what was going on with me and I elude everyone even my dad and mom who tried to help me I could not stand them nor could I stand any other human being,....Anyway it was really tough,I heard things that weren't there,I smelled things that weren't there,I even hallucinated things and I had two or three voices in my had that always beat on me,I said to myself I'm going to get better I'm going to go through this depression and when I finished this sentience immediately two voices screamed angrily back: No you won't you are a loser,everyone hate you,you are pathetic!!!
But in the past few weeks I putted myself back in order,I figured out the cause of my depression,I started practising self love and I'm better than ever,the girl has no more control over me,I still have the two voices in my head but they now always agree with me,I'm not anti-social any more and I like spending time with people again. I haven't feel so "stable" in a long time and I have a feeling that I'm not going back to depression any time soon.
About the psychologist I have seen one and he was one of the best you could get,and what I can say is that he did not help anything! He only took 100 euros for 1 hour of talking ,and he didn't help me anything he just prescribed me to visit another psychologist.
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?