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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
June 15, 2014 at 12:19 pm
(June 15, 2014 at 1:41 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (June 15, 2014 at 1:09 am)Minimalist Wrote: Babylonia never conquered Egypt.
Someone spilled some extra ink all over the damn map.
http://www.keyway.ca/htm2000/20000214.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Babylonian_Empire
http://www.prophecydepotministries.net/2...esolation/
The wiki map is correct. The third one is some bible bullshitter.
I can't open the first one.
Nonetheless, the wiki article is correct. The Egyptians, after trying to assist their Assyrian allies were defeated at Carchemish by the Babylonians in 605 BC. But the 26th dynasty held off Babylon until the Persians came along c 525.
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Abiogenesis is impossible
June 15, 2014 at 1:43 pm
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2014 at 1:45 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(June 14, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Everything is a story but never disregard the historical events.
A group claims that abiogenesis is impossible but they believe that a god character made everything from dirt.
This. Snowy has a problem with abiogenesis only because it doesn't literally describe god playing in a sandbox, molding a man out of clay, and breathing in his face before placing him in the garden of Eden.
In his "mind" scientists are scared to present this "theory" because of a worldwide "conspiracy" that will pull their funding if they stop doing science and replace theory and experimentation with hand scrawled "Dunno GodDidIt" notes.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
June 15, 2014 at 2:59 pm
(June 15, 2014 at 12:57 am)snowtracks Wrote: (June 13, 2014 at 1:34 am)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: You really don't have a single fucking clue, do you?
Holy fuck. Is that really the best you've got?
Sad. Just fucking sad. predictable you couldn't figure out the loaded coin bet.
No, I just recognize bullshit when I smell it.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
June 15, 2014 at 5:02 pm
(June 14, 2014 at 6:56 pm)snowtracks Wrote: hey atheist, they're playing you like a drum and you don't even know it. scientists using the naturalism methodology can't make reference to a designer or they lose their funding because there would be nothing for them to study.
Hey theist, Ben Stein is playing you like a drum and you don't even know it. Your silly fairytale pretend science doesn't need anything as grand as a conspiracy to be a laughing stock. You realise Expelled was a comedy film, right?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
June 15, 2014 at 10:24 pm
(June 15, 2014 at 2:30 am)snowtracks Wrote: poor guy is suffering so from such big, big numbers "but there are a lot of planets in the universe, snowtracks", "if we take into account the countless planets". first of all dufus, there are an estimated 10^82 atoms in the observable universe so you know the planets are less right? http://www.universetoday.com/36302/atoms...-universe/
and did you know the http://www2.astro.psu.edu/users/dfox/A00...lec37.html that the The Fermi Paradox has you flat on the ground and gasping for air? and do you believe in the galactic police force charged with painting over the graffitti left by other civilizations cited by the site?
Lots of name-calling, and you still didn't address what I said.
You initially started talking about how "improbable" it must be for life to be on earth. I responded with iterative probability to explain this (and even gave an observable real-world example to help break it down so that maybe you could wrap your head around it). You respond by dodging and busting out a bunch of big words off topic to try and make it sound like you know what you're talking about.
Jesus Christ, you're useless. Snowball, are you doing this to convince us or yourself? So far as I can tell, you're pretty much the same as Godschild: you're only after our silence, rather than trying to actually convince us we're wrong with a cognizant point. Your only weapon in your arsenal is endurance. You figure if you keep posting here long enough, we'll all gradually leave the thread or put you on ignore, and eventually, you'll "win".
Useless.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
June 16, 2014 at 1:45 am
(June 15, 2014 at 1:43 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: (June 14, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Everything is a story but never disregard the historical events.
A group claims that abiogenesis is impossible but they believe that a god character made everything from dirt.
This. Snowy has a problem with abiogenesis only because it doesn't literally describe god playing in a sandbox, molding a man out of clay, and breathing in his face before placing him in the garden of Eden.
In his "mind" scientists are scared to present this "theory" because of a worldwide "conspiracy" that will pull their funding if they stop doing science and replace theory and experimentation with hand scrawled "Dunno GodDidIt" notes.
People tend to get so wrapped up in the "Garden of Eden" story that they overlook the fact that the Bible says where it was and even when it existed. I can understand casual Bible readers missing it but even preachers and priests overlook it. So if the God character actually made a man from common field dirt and then a woman from the man's rib it was on a planet in a galaxy far, far, far away. It didn't happen on this one.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
June 16, 2014 at 2:33 am
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2014 at 2:36 am by snowtracks.)
(June 15, 2014 at 10:24 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: (June 15, 2014 at 2:30 am)snowtracks Wrote: poor guy is suffering so from such big, big numbers "but there are a lot of planets in the universe, snowtracks", "if we take into account the countless planets". first of all dufus, there are an estimated 10^82 atoms in the observable universe so you know the planets are less right? http://www.universetoday.com/36302/atoms...-universe/
and did you know the http://www2.astro.psu.edu/users/dfox/A00...lec37.html that the The Fermi Paradox has you flat on the ground and gasping for air? and do you believe in the galactic police force charged with painting over the graffitti left by other civilizations cited by the site? Lots of name-calling, and you still didn't address what I said.
You initially started talking about how "improbable" it must be for life to be on earth. I responded with iterative probability to explain this (and even gave an observable real-world example to help break it down so that maybe you could wrap your head around it). You respond by dodging and busting out a bunch of big words off topic to try and make it sound like you know what you're talking about.
Jesus Christ, you're useless. Snowball, are you doing this to convince us or yourself? So far as I can tell, you're pretty much the same as Godschild: you're only after our silence, rather than trying to actually convince us we're wrong with a cognizant point. Your only weapon in your arsenal is endurance. You figure if you keep posting here long enough, we'll all gradually leave the thread or put you on ignore, and eventually, you'll "win".
Useless. "iterative probability" - saw you posted it and understand it. now, should I call a press conference?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
June 16, 2014 at 3:08 am
You should call a doctor
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
June 16, 2014 at 3:39 am
(June 15, 2014 at 12:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (June 15, 2014 at 1:41 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Someone spilled some extra ink all over the damn map.
http://www.keyway.ca/htm2000/20000214.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Babylonian_Empire
http://www.prophecydepotministries.net/2...esolation/
The wiki map is correct. The third one is some bible bullshitter.
I can't open the first one.
Nonetheless, the wiki article is correct. The Egyptians, after trying to assist their Assyrian allies were defeated at Carchemish by the Babylonians in 605 BC. But the 26th dynasty held off Babylon until the Persians came along c 525.
Some sources say that Babylon defeated Egypt and took some of its territory. But you might be right about Babylon never occupying Egypt proper. http://biblehub.com/2_kings/24-7.htm It's sort of like the U.S. taking Mexican territory without actually occupying Mexico proper, although we did invade Mexico and defeated it.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
June 16, 2014 at 6:29 am
(June 16, 2014 at 2:33 am)snowtracks Wrote: "iterative probability" - saw you posted it and understand it. now, should I call a press conference?
So do you then retract your "argument" to which it was a rebuttal?
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