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RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
June 21, 2014 at 3:08 am
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If he'd just been the big man eh? Why dig latrines when there are graves yet to be dug? I mean, fuck all this civil administration shit..people don;t need facilities - it's time to count coo motherfucker!
-Tells you a bit about the author of this piece of fiction eh?
(no david means no rape, btw, the official ruling...lol)
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RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
June 21, 2014 at 7:39 am
(June 21, 2014 at 3:03 am)alpha male Wrote: No, you have to back up to the beginning. David's downfall comes from his own laziness.
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1 It happened in the spring of the year, at the time when kings go out to battle, that David sent Joab and his servants with him, and all Israel; and they destroyed the people of Ammon and besieged Rabbah. But David remained at Jerusalem.
It was the time when kings go out to battle, but David didn't. If he had, none of this would have happened. Yes! I think Uriah still works as a foil in that scenario, perhaps even more so. Maybe his actions remind David of his own irresponsibility to the troops and makes it even easier for him to slide down that slope to ruin.
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RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
June 21, 2014 at 7:55 am
(June 21, 2014 at 7:39 am)Tonus Wrote: Yes! I think Uriah still works as a foil in that scenario, perhaps even more so. Maybe his actions remind David of his own irresponsibility to the troops and makes it even easier for him to slide down that slope to ruin. While David's fall begins before Uriah's faithfulness, yes, Uriah's actions may have contributed to David's guilt and to his furthering his crimes.
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RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
November 26, 2014 at 10:05 pm
Bathsheba was young, black and apparently very beautiful. I Seriously doubt she was raped.
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RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
November 26, 2014 at 10:14 pm
Maybe 'David' was having a frat kegger in the palace?
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RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
November 26, 2014 at 10:36 pm
alpha Wrote:I don't know if you honestly missed v. 23-24 or are intentionally skipping over it, but it's more applicable, as it refers to the same situation but in a city. In such a case, the act is presumed to be consensual (and both parties punishable by death) unless there's reasonable evidence that it was rape, such as screams from the woman. By your own method of analyzing what we're not told, well, we're not told that she screamed, so it should be viewed as consensual.
I don't know if you honestly don't see how fucking disgusting this is or if you're just okay with it.
If a woman doesn't scream loud enough for someone to hear then it doesn't count as rape and she should be put to death (if married) or forced to marry her rapist. You seem to be misrepresenting the verse. I don't feel like looking it up, but from what I recall a woman raped within city limits is automatically guilty, then they tack on she didn't scream loud enough for a reason why she's guilty. I'm pretty sure.
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RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
November 27, 2014 at 2:18 am
(November 26, 2014 at 10:05 pm)strawdawg Wrote: Bathsheba was young, black and apparently very beautiful. I Seriously doubt she was raped.
First off, why black and not middle eastern?
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RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
November 27, 2014 at 2:20 am
Strawdog, can you please stop necroposting?
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RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
November 27, 2014 at 2:20 am
(November 26, 2014 at 10:36 pm)Losty Wrote: alpha Wrote:I don't know if you honestly missed v. 23-24 or are intentionally skipping over it, but it's more applicable, as it refers to the same situation but in a city. In such a case, the act is presumed to be consensual (and both parties punishable by death) unless there's reasonable evidence that it was rape, such as screams from the woman. By your own method of analyzing what we're not told, well, we're not told that she screamed, so it should be viewed as consensual.
I don't know if you honestly don't see how fucking disgusting this is or if you're just okay with it.
If a woman doesn't scream loud enough for someone to hear then it doesn't count as rape and she should be put to death (if married) or forced to marry her rapist. You seem to be misrepresenting the verse. I don't feel like looking it up, but from what I recall a woman raped within city limits is automatically guilty, then they tack on she didn't scream loud enough for a reason why she's guilty. I'm pretty sure.
After all what if he held at knife point or simply gagged her?
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RE: Did King David rape Bath-sheba?
November 27, 2014 at 2:55 am
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