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should america support Israel?
#61
RE: should america support Israel?
We never stood down.
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#62
RE: should america support Israel?
(July 10, 2014 at 3:23 pm)bberryhill0 Wrote: We never stood down.

We stood down from 1946-1949, and began to approach pre-WWII levels. American armed forces went from tens of millions on active duty to hundreds of thousands. The Cold War rearmament and buildup didn't start in earnest until after the start of Korean War, and didn't reach near national mobilization levels until Kennedy Administration.
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#63
RE: should america support Israel?
I stand corrected. Thanks Chuck. So the golden age in the fifties when everyone was happy was when our military was smallest.
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#64
RE: should america support Israel?
(July 10, 2014 at 3:27 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(July 10, 2014 at 3:23 pm)bberryhill0 Wrote: We never stood down.

We stood down from 1946-1949, and began to approach pre-WWII levels. American armed forces went from tens of millions on active duty to hundreds of thousands. The Cold War rearmament and buildup didn't start in earnest until after the start of Korean War, and didn't reach near national mobilization levels until Kennedy Administration.

You sure about that? According to the information I have, yes, we stood down between WWII and Korea, and peaked at about 3 million active duty personnel in 1970 (compared to 12 million in 1945). Today it's closer to a million and a half.

According to what I've found, we haven't come close to approaching WWII mobilization levels.
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#65
RE: should america support Israel?
We never approached WWII level of mobilization. But national mobilization can happen at a fraction of WWII level.

starting with Korean War, we were at a much higher level of mobilization than any other peacetime before WWII, even when we were not actually fighting in Korea or Vietnam. Our forces levels anytime during and after Korean War can be considered mobilization force levels by PRE-WWII lstandards.

Prior to 1960, we relied on nuclear retaliation as main tool of war fighting. Tactical conventional forces, which in any military mobilization consumes lion's share of resource and manpower, were put on the back burner.

After 1960, we switched posture to flexible response, which in effect was an effort to match the Soviet Union in tactical conventional forces, really puts us on something like serious national mobilization by pre-WWII standards.
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#66
RE: should america support Israel?
What are the dollar levels?
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#67
RE: should america support Israel?
(July 9, 2014 at 7:40 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Fuck Israel.

I'm sick of those murderous cunts.

Maybe you and your new bff bberry buddy can go and volunteer to be human shields for Hamas like some of those dumbass Palenstinians are doing right now.
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#68
RE: should america support Israel?
(July 10, 2014 at 4:31 pm)bberryhill0 Wrote: What are the dollar levels?

As I've opined elsewhere, I think the DoD budget should be capped at 4% GDP (2000 levels) unless Congress declares war.

Your conclusion about the 50's is a little off the mark.

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#69
RE: should america support Israel?
Adolf? Don't tell me you're with the Jews?

What would your fuhrer say if he heard you talk like that?
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#70
RE: should america support Israel?
(July 11, 2014 at 12:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Adolf? Don't tell me you're with the Jews?

What would your fuhrer say if he heard you talk like that?

I guess I would be Adolf's enemy then. But Adolf would definitely love you though.
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