Spare the rod, spoil the child

[Little lunch]

I think we need to get Dr Phil in on this one.

[Jacob(smooth)]

What does religion really have to do with spanking? I've know many atheists who believed in corporal punishment, more so than the religious. The religious were actually the most passive people I have met when it comes to punishing their children like their belief that even criticizing their child by saying they did something wrong would harm their psyche.

Prov 13:24: "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (diligently)."

Prov 22:15: "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."

Prov 23:13: "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die."

prov 23:14: "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell (Shoel)."

Prov 29:15: "The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame."

The biblical recommendation is to use "the rod".

Losty, stop sniggering. There is nothing funny about spanking with your rod.

Many literalists see that as a direct biblical fiat to not only spank but to use an implement

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Suppose this question was on a child safety quiz:

You are standing by the road with a 3-year-old and see a car approaching. What should you do?

A. Take the child's hand until the car is past.

B. Keep attention on the child, knowing that you can grab the child by the hair if it moves toward the car.

Oh for fuck sake. Can we move on from this please? Its scarcely a salient point!

[John V]

Oh for fuck sake. Can we move on from this please? Its scarcely a salient point!

You don't help to move on from the point by responding to it. Well, unless you're conceding. Anyway, here's some info:
http://think.direct.gov.uk/education/ear...an-safety/

2. Hold hands
Always hold hands with your young child near traffic (or make sure they hold onto a buggy if you’re pushing one).

[Jacob(smooth)]

Oh for fuck sake. Can we move on from this please? Its scarcely a salient point!

You don't help to move on from the point by responding to it. Well, unless you're conceding.

I wasn't even involved in that discussion dumbass. I don't think road safety awareness is terribly germain to a discussion on child discipline. Conceding?! Shit the bed, it really is about point scoring for you isn't it.

Anyway, here's some info:
http://think.direct.gov.uk/education/ear...an-safety/
2. Hold hands
Always hold hands with your young child near traffic (or make sure they hold onto a buggy if you’re pushing one).

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You... you just fail. You fail SO hard. You fail so hard you don't even realise how hard you fail. Hold hand with children near traffic. I'm blinded by your flashes of the obvious.

[John V]

I wasn't even involved in that discussion dumbass.

you butted into it, dumbass.

I don't think road safety awareness is terribly germain to a discussion on child discipline.

This surely isn't the first time you've seen a tangent in a thread. Do you always point them out?

Conceding?! Shit the bed, it really is about point scoring for you isn't it.

Sometimes. Seems to be what you're after now, too. As noted, the best method to end a line of discussion is to stop responding to it. Yet, here you are.

You... you just fail. You fail SO hard. You fail so hard you don't even realise how hard you fail. Hold hand with children near traffic. I'm blinded by your flashes of the obvious.

So you agree that it's better to hold a small child's hand near traffic, rather than just watching them and grabbing their hair if they step out into it?

[Jacob(smooth)]

So you agree that it's better to hold a small child's hand near traffic, rather than just watching them and grabbing their hair if they step out into it?

Yes. You win. We were all foolish to doubt your profound parenting insight.

[Losty]

Oh well fuck me, why the fuck did I not think of building a fence
No I was not prepared to grab 5 kids by the hair.
I was however prepared to see every time a car was coming. This gave me enough time to see where each kid was and make whatever decision necesarry to make sure everyone would be safe. Every kid was safe. I had the littlest one in my arm. The other three were by the house (not enough time to run to the street and get hit)
And LeliBug was right next to me. I never in a million years would have guessed that she'd step out, but I was standing right next to her and I did have my attention on her.

Suppose this question was on a child safety quiz:

You are standing by the road with a 3-year-old and see a car approaching. What should you do?

A. Take the child's hand until the car is past.

B. Keep attention on the child, knowing that you can grab the child by the hair if it moves toward the car.

Supposed I told you to go fuck yourself while filing my nails and still managing to successfully raise three children without ever needing or desiring to hit them.....

[John V]

Supposed I told you to go fuck yourself while filing my nails and still managing to successfully raise three children without ever needing or desiring to hit them.....

Or you could say, "Looking back, I still think they were safe, but yeah, it would have been better to proactively take the hand when a car was coming."

[The Grand Nudger]

-in a perfect world......lol. Somebody needs to send these parenting experts to my place. I'd get a kick out of watching them lose their shit. I'd want to get some close-up footage of all the crying and hair-pulling especially...from the expert, that is, as they huddled in the corner, rocking back and forth. Maybe some people are looking to raise lambs - but I love my lions.

[Losty]

Supposed I told you to go fuck yourself while filing my nails and still managing to successfully raise three children without ever needing or desiring to hit them.....

Or you could say, "Looking back, I still think they were safe, but yeah, it would have been better to proactively take the hand when a car was coming."

I could, but where's the fun in that lol.