The Image Problem With Atheism in America

[Polaris]

Did I hit a nerve again, are you 15?

I stated that your post on page 8 was indicative of what the world mocks you for doing.

(Yesterday 23:04)Polaris Wrote:
The WBC and min's islamophobic rants focused on the hijab.

Disagreeing with Islam and insulting their customs does not make one an Islamaphobe.

So how is that any different than you going up to a immigrant tin your nation and insulting them for their own customs or insulting the customs of say the Japanese?

Dawkins has many times been publicly accused for being an Isamaophobe for his comments; you're so much more deserving of that title.

[Bad Wolf]

So how is that any different than you going up to a immigrant tin your nation and insulting them for their own customs or insulting the customs of say the Japanese?

Dawkins has many times been publicly accused for being an Isamaophobe for his comments; you're so much more deserving of that title.

I have repeated my position twice now. It isn't my fault or my problem if you either didn't read it or are unable to understand it.

Now back to me lying. You have accused me of lying many times now. Either provide evidence for it, or retract your claim and apologise for the accusation.

[Polaris]

Doubling down I see...it's quite obvious you hold bigotry against Moslems; your own comments (one of which quoted on this page) have proven such.

It's people such as yourself who give ammunition for the theists to use against other atheists, atheists unlike yourself who actually behave in a logical and rational manner.

[Bad Wolf]

You really need to stop this now. You are just embarrasing yourself. You have made lots of claims and accusations without any evidence. When challenged on this and asked to provide evidence, you have refused and in an attempt to distract everyone from these bare assertions that you've made, you have thrown a tantrum and started attacking me.

I'm not going to forget the fact that you have called me liar and yet refused to provide any instance in which I lied. And I think I know why. Because you can't because there isn't any evidence because I haven't lied. If there were any evidence of me lying, you would be waving it over your head and shouting for everyone to see. Instead you just keep asserting again and again that I have lied. Well thats fine, as long as you don't care if anyone believes you.

You will notice how nobody is backing you up on anything you say and that a few people have infact told you to think before you post. This is because they also recognize that you are making a fool of yourself. Please stop. You are wrong and worse than that, you are petty and arrogant.

Now either provide an instance of me lying or retract your accusation.

[Polaris]

Talk about being petty. Please don't tell me you actually behave like this in public....that would be quite embarrassing for everyone around you.

You can disagree with the religion of Islam, but insulting the people or the customs they adhere to makes you a bigot. I myself don't respect their religion, but respect their right to live as they do.

[Bad Wolf]

You can disagree with the religion of Islam, but insulting the people

I have lost count of the amount of times I have denied that I insult muslims. Shall I do it again? I don't insult muslims, I insult their customs.

or the customs they adhere to makes you a bigot.

Really? So you don't think that stonings, oppression of women and suicide bombings warrant insults?


Have you found any evidence of me lying yet? If not, you know what I want.
I'm not going to let this slide, the more you ignore it, the worse it becomes.

[Tobie]

Did I hit a nerve again, are you 15?

I stated that your post on page 8 was indicative of what the world mocks you for doing.

(Yesterday 23:04)Polaris Wrote:
The WBC and min's islamophobic rants focused on the hijab.

Disagreeing with Islam and insulting their customs does not make one an Islamaphobe.

So how is that any different than you going up to a immigrant tin your nation and insulting them for their own customs or insulting the customs of say the Japanese?

Dawkins has many times been publicly accused for being an Isamaophobe for his comments; you're so much more deserving of that title.

There's a big difference between an "islamaphobe" and insulting some Islamic customs. You can insult the customs because you don't agree with them, not because you have some hatred/fear of Islam in general. For example, the Islamic customs involving homophobia and misogyny are berated by many people, because what it leads to is despicable, rather than because they are afraid of Islam.

[Angrboda]

@Baqal:
No offense, but I find your style of quoting obnoxious and irritating. Italic text is harder to read than plaintext, and you tend to underquote text making it hard to follow the context (and because your style doesn't include links to the full text, recovering the full context is made very difficult), the framing provided by visual elements of the standard quoting enhance readability, meaning yours are harder to read, and the deviation from uniform standards means that every time someone comes across one of your posts, they have to take time figuring out exactly what you're doing with your quoting. You make things harder on the rest of us just because of a mere preference. You're like a driver going the wrong way down a one-way street solely because, "he likes it that way."

/rant

[Endo]

Interesting how people are so quick to pull out the "-phobe" attack whenever someone disagrees with something a certain group does. Reminds me of that spirituality class in Donnie Darko, where people are talking about how people are motivated by either fear or love.

Saying that the hijab is a symbol of the oppression of women in Islam IS NOT Islamaphobic. Acting in a way that hurts the Islamic just because they are Islamic is "Islamaphobic". Maybe we should just simplify all this sematical bullshit with "-phobe" to "bigot". "You're an Islamaphobe." "No, he's just a bigot."

Either way, HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE OP?

[Baqal]

@Baqal:
No offense, but I find your style of quoting obnoxious and irritating. Italic text is harder to read than plaintext, and you tend to underquote text making it hard to follow the context (and because your style doesn't include links to the full text, recovering the full context is made very difficult), the framing provided by visual elements of the standard quoting enhance readability, meaning yours are harder to read, and the deviation from uniform standards means that every time someone comes across one of your posts, they have to take time figuring out exactly what you're doing with your quoting. You make things harder on the rest of us just because of a mere preference. You're like a driver going the wrong way down a one-way street solely because, "he likes it that way."

If everyone wears a bird's nest with eggs on their heads, would you do it too?
And, guess what? I'm convinced. I hope no one addresses this again because it is getting off-topic and annoying.