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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 4:07 pm
(October 12, 2014 at 2:38 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (October 12, 2014 at 1:33 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: What ever you say
It's not what I said, kitten. It's what you said, when you admitted that facts don't come into your deliberations at all. Facts are things that are real, and when you believe in things against the facts, you are believing in things that are not real. That's irrational, even delusional.
Crazy people believe in things that aren't real as fervently as you apparently believe in your stance on abortion. We make our diagnoses of mental illness primarily on how well a person's beliefs match up with objective reality, after all.
So what I am mad because I don't like the idea of life's being destroyed, does it mean I am bonkers cause I don't think murder is right.
By calling me a kitten you are slaging me off.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 4:09 pm
(October 12, 2014 at 10:55 am)C4RM5 Wrote: Exactly that is what religion is, it is now my signature, I don't need facts because God has revealed himself to me and no matter how many facts I give you, you still will seek to disprove it. You aren't giving any facts, by your own admission. You have no idea how we'll respond to your facts, since you have not offered any. You have told us that you believe, whether you have facts or not. I bet that in any other area of your life, you don't consider that a smart way to go through life. But in the most important one, you throw away common sense and facts and replace it with belief.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 4:11 pm
How can I expand my beliefs in thinking abortions are wrong.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 4:11 pm
Quote:If the mother might die, would it be okay
You didn't answer my question
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 4:14 pm
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2014 at 4:15 pm by C4RM5.)
(October 12, 2014 at 4:09 pm)Tonus Wrote: (October 12, 2014 at 10:55 am)C4RM5 Wrote: Exactly that is what religion is, it is now my signature, I don't need facts because God has revealed himself to me and no matter how many facts I give you, you still will seek to disprove it. You aren't giving any facts, by your own admission. You have no idea how we'll respond to your facts, since you have not offered any. You have told us that you believe, whether you have facts or not. I bet that in any other area of your life, you don't consider that a smart way to go through life. But in the most important one, you throw away common sense and facts and replace it with belief.
I think being able to trust in something is a positive quality. For instance say for some reason you hanging of the edge of a large drop and someone is ready to pull you back up, do you let them pull you up and have faith or do you ask for factual evidence to prove that they can pull you up?
(October 12, 2014 at 4:11 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: Quote:If the mother might die, would it be okay
You didn't answer my question
Not sure
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 4:17 pm
What is it that you are trusting in, when it comes to the belief that a fertilized egg is a person?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 4:19 pm
I trust the Bible which says no human should take away a life from someone else.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 4:21 pm
(October 12, 2014 at 4:14 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I think being able to trust in something is a positive quality. For instance say for some reason you hanging of the edge of a large drop and someone is ready to pull you back up, do you let them pull you up and have faith or do you ask for factual evidence to prove that they can pull you up? So you believe because you had no choice? Not the best way to build a belief system, but it's consistent with Christianity I guess.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 4:23 pm
With Christianity you have a choice.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 4:24 pm
(October 12, 2014 at 4:19 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I trust the Bible which says no human should take away a life from someone else.
Despite all the genocides promoted, or carried out, by the god of the bible.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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