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Abortion not allowed
RE: Abortion not allowed
Why can't people see past their bias? It's religiosity at its worst, practiced by atheists here.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
(October 12, 2014 at 4:19 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I trust the Bible which says no human should take away a life from someone else.

Bracketing out the definition of person, the bible also has a myriad of examples where God actively condones the taking away of people's lives.

But it's only not a contradiction to what you posted If you redefine the word contradiction.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
And contradictions are only contradictions because we say they are.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
(October 13, 2014 at 4:19 am)fr0d0 Wrote: And contradictions are only contradictions because we say they are.

Nah, they're contradictions because they contradict other things said in the same piece of text. There's no other way of looking at them, unless you don't look at them.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
(October 12, 2014 at 4:23 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: With Christianity you have a choice.
Then why did you give an example that implies otherwise?
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(October 13, 2014 at 2:16 am)fr0d0 Wrote: lol esq please put your handbag away. You were trying to be condescending. Admit it. It's plain for everyone to see.

"It's just obvious!" is not a compelling argument. I've already explained my position, by what possible means could you have more information on my life by which to gainsay it?

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RE: Abortion not allowed
(October 13, 2014 at 5:17 am)Tonus Wrote:
(October 12, 2014 at 4:23 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: With Christianity you have a choice.
Then why did you give an example that implies otherwise?

What example.

(October 12, 2014 at 6:26 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:
(October 12, 2014 at 4:52 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I am not in a position to question God.

So you admit that the bible doesn't say that people shouldn't take life away from other people?

No i don't admit that.

(October 13, 2014 at 1:41 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(October 13, 2014 at 1:34 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I'll help you out esq. You were being condescending. Using an insulting name to assert your self imposed superiority.

Like I said, I call my fiancee that too. I called my friends that, before it took on that significance. It's a subversion of gender roles thing: my male friends were kitten or love, my female friends were champ or slugger. It's just me being silly.

But again, thank you for taking charge of what I think for me. Obviously I can't be trusted with my own positions, since I keep thinking they're something else! Rolleyes

I am just joking when I say your slaging me honestly it is fine with it.

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(October 13, 2014 at 12:31 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:
(October 12, 2014 at 6:26 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: So you admit that the bible doesn't say that people shouldn't take life away from other people?
No i don't admit that.

Well, you said that the bible doesn't say to kill other people, at which point I said that it does, giving several clear examples. Then you said you don't question gods word which wasn't really an answer. How do you reconsile this without admitting your original statment was wrong?

Do you want me to quote the bible verses?
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(October 13, 2014 at 12:31 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:
(October 13, 2014 at 5:17 am)Tonus Wrote: Then why did you give an example that implies otherwise?
What example.
This one:
(October 12, 2014 at 4:14 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I think being able to trust in something is a positive quality. For instance say for some reason you hanging of the edge of a large drop and someone is ready to pull you back up, do you let them pull you up and have faith or do you ask for factual evidence to prove that they can pull you up?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Abortion not allowed
(October 13, 2014 at 12:48 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:
(October 13, 2014 at 12:31 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: No i don't admit that.

Well, you said that the bible doesn't say to kill other people, at which point I said that it does, giving several clear examples. Then you said you don't question gods word which wasn't really an answer. How do you reconsile this without admitting your original statment was wrong?

Do you want me to quote the bible verses?

If you want I can't stop it.

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