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RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
October 13, 2014 at 8:43 pm
And where did you get this information outside of the bible, which was written by his enemies? How do you tell the difference between your god, and someone pretending to be your god? Christianity is in no better position than islam.
Multiple wives seemed to be within god's plan enough that a couple of his best people, David and Solomon, were polygamists. Is there ever anything in the bible where Yahweh or Jesus admonishes polygamy?
My, what well researched finds you have. Three whole examples.
Can I get some citations on how being raised by homosexual parents screws up children? And what about children raised by fundamental christian heterosexual parents? I'd be more worried about them personally.
Since the only information we have about Satan comes from a book written by the followers of a genocidal narcissist, I'd really like to talk to him first before making any judgments. I'm not sure why he would hate people, especially those who don't worship Yahweh.
This country has a long history of fighting for equal rights. Blacks, women, other ethnic minorities, interracial couples, ect. Homosexuals are just the latest in a line. They will soon be free to do as they want, and we'll move on to the next group as needed. It's no different than when they gave blacks and women the right to vote. There's nothing special about it. fighting for the rights of minorities is just what Americans do, ever since people started saying we shouldn't have to pay taxes without representation in the British government.
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RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
October 13, 2014 at 9:00 pm
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Chad, Paul said if one would be an overseer of the Church (a bishop) he should be the husband of ONE wife.
Jesus said in the beginning God made one man and one woman (He said something like that- I paraphrase).
Yeah David had multiple wives but it was not God's idea.
And Solomon did also, and it wrecked him- he went from being the wisest guy on the planet to turning away from God because of his stupid female choices- to playing the fool in the end.
Any tree is identified by the fruit it bears.
Look at the fruit of false Christianity- Popery.
Look at the fruit of Islam (the word means submission).
Look at the bondage of the JWs and Mormons.
Need I say any more?
You want citations? From the system? Not likely.
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RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
October 13, 2014 at 9:08 pm
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A woman who fucks a lot of dudes = likely candidate for slander as harlot, adulterer, etc. (Oh, and hell fire).
A man who fucks a lot of chics = likely candidate for God's chosen vessel to author timeless texts of divine wisdom (and the designation as a "hero of faith").
That's what some would call working in mysterious ways. I call it age-old patriarchy.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
October 13, 2014 at 9:09 pm
Wasn't Paul the guy that said you shouldn't have sex at all, but if you were going to, you should at least get married to one woman? I don't know why Yahweh didn't give Adam a bunch of wives, especially since he was meant to be the father of a species. It seems like if there was any time a man needed many wives, it would be in the very beginning.
It doesn't mean they aren't worshiping the same deity. They just have different ideas on how to worship him.
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RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
October 13, 2014 at 9:47 pm
Paul did not say you should not have sex.
Yes, he did say it is better to marry than to burn with lust (a no brainer).
He also said the marriage bed is undefiled, meaning go have fun.
God did not need multiple wives for the first men.
He sees the end from the beginning.
Look at how badly it turned out for everybody that Abraham chose to stick his prong in Sarah's maid, when Sarah suggested it.
And then, like an idiot, the guy sends the maid and her/ his son away with nothing.
(see- the good, bad and ugly is right there in the book- if the book was fake- only the good would have been recorded)
All the hatred, murder, bombings and evil going on in the middle east now and historically came from those two grossly stupid ideas.
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RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
October 13, 2014 at 9:58 pm
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The reason the bad and the ugly was recorded, is because the bible pushes the idea that man is flawed and needs god. So even the best men fall, except maybe for Job, Jesus' followers were kind of dumb, and so forth.
I'm pretty sure the reason the middle east is so messed up is because there was this book that said a certain group should own land that was already inhabited, and people who didn't worship Yahweh should be killed.
That doesn't really change the fact that, for better or worse, consenting adults should have the right to do what they want. Including polygamy, homosexuality, or whatever. I don't think the children of most homosexual couples will turn out any worse than children of deeply religious heterosexual christians. If you're going to avoid giving citations, it's going to be hard to prove otherwise.
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RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
October 13, 2014 at 10:00 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
October 13, 2014 at 10:07 pm
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Min, I do not believe the current popular delusion of the earth's age and man being as you noted above. See "Delusion" works both ways........
Chad, something I missed in response-
Satan hates you, not only because you are created in God's image,
but because you were created to REPLACE him.
He usurped the authority of Adam when Adam obeyed the serpent, but the lease is running out as we speak.
It can't happen fast enough for me.
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RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
October 13, 2014 at 10:16 pm
I don't care about replacing him, and can understand his desire not to worship the god portrayed in the bible. Of course he doesn't talk to me any more than Jesus did, so there's not much i can say about it.
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RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
October 13, 2014 at 10:24 pm
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(October 13, 2014 at 10:07 pm)professor Wrote: Min, I do not believe the current popular delusion of the earth's age and man being as you noted above. See "Delusion" works both ways........
Chad, something I missed in response-
Satan hates you, not only because you are created in God's image,
but because you were created to REPLACE him.
He usurped the authority of Adam when Adam obeyed the serpent, but the lease is running out as we speak.
It can't happen fast enough for me.
Uh, no, it does not work both ways. 4.6 billion years is not necessarily right, but it is by far the credible of all proposed alternatives based on overwhelming preponderance of available evidence. Adam and Eve is necessarily wrong, because it is by far the least credible of any proposed alternatives for precisely the same reason. Delusion is belief against weight of evidence, believe based on willful cherry picking of evidence. Delusion is quite simply taking your interpretation of bible as evidence for anything whatsoever.
Get the fucking real. You have already become an embarrassment even for the humiliating wort upon face of humanity called Christianity.
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