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 (October 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm)trmof Wrote: Firstly, your "Religious Views" are: Anti-theist, which would imply that you would be against a god even if you knew for sure that it existed. This wasn't directed at me, but if we're talking about the god of the Bible, I would never serve such a monster.  
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Your stance on Hard Atheism
October 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2014 at 2:20 pm by fr0d0.)
(October 28, 2014 at 9:30 am)JuliaL Wrote:(October 28, 2014 at 5:22 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I know there is/are God/gods to the same degree that I know there is no elephant in my refrigerator. I do not claim this knowledge is absolute and unqualified as I do not believe in the possibility of such knowledge (the unknown unknowns can only be unknown) hence below some noise level, all such claims are agnostic. But within the limits of my instrumentation and within conventions of common discourse, I know there is no elephant in my refrigerator and know it is rational to believe there is/are God/gods.What instrumentation are you using and what is its current perceived output? Exactly the same as you, with the exact same output. (October 28, 2014 at 11:51 am)TreeSapNest Wrote: I think there are no gods. I think people who believe gods act within them or the world are mistaken. I think my beliefs are rational. But you have no proof for anything, so the opposite view could actually be rational and yours not.  (October 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(October 28, 2014 at 11:51 am)TreeSapNest Wrote: I think there are no gods. I think people who believe gods act within them or the world are mistaken. I think my beliefs are rational. I don't believe there are any gods because there is no evidence of any gods. How is that not rational? You believe there is a God without any evidence of that God. How is that rational?
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.  (October 28, 2014 at 2:33 pm)Chas Wrote: I don't believe there are any gods because there is no evidence of any gods. ^ This ^
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
 (October 28, 2014 at 2:33 pm)Chas Wrote:(October 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: But you have no proof for anything, so the opposite view could actually be rational and yours not. Something something knowledge of God something And you can too!
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson  (October 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:I guess all we can each do is the best we can.(October 28, 2014 at 11:51 am)TreeSapNest Wrote: I think there are no gods. I think people who believe gods act within them or the world are mistaken. I think my beliefs are rational.But you have no proof for anything, so the opposite view could actually be rational and yours not.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (October 28, 2014 at 2:36 pm)Jenny A Wrote:(October 28, 2014 at 2:33 pm)Chas Wrote: I don't believe there are any gods because there is no evidence of any gods. Because there can be evidence. To say that you disbelieve because there is no evidence, when such evidence is logically impossible, is not rational.  (October 28, 2014 at 3:02 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: To say that you disbelieve because there is no evidence, when such evidence is logically impossible, is not rational. Here we go again... If you claim your god can alter or interfere with the universe, it would leave evidence of its presence. Its actions would leave a trail of evidence. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
And wow, look at all the evidence everywhere! Care to prove the source?
(October 28, 2014 at 3:02 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(October 28, 2014 at 2:36 pm)Jenny A Wrote: ^ This ^ You claim it is logically impossible without supporting that claim. Claim dismissed.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
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