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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
November 12, 2014 at 9:06 pm
(November 12, 2014 at 9:04 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 12, 2014 at 8:56 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So, you think that a heat death involves things becoming really hot?  not exactly, "science.....goes to near absolute zero".
So then how does that match the roaring and intense heat part of your little prediction? Or are you just making shit up as you go along again?
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
November 12, 2014 at 9:36 pm
(November 12, 2014 at 9:06 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (November 12, 2014 at 9:04 pm)snowtracks Wrote: not exactly, "science.....goes to near absolute zero".
So then how does that match the roaring and intense heat part of your little prediction? Or are you just making shit up as you go along again? science says universe ends in 'heat death' which is 'cold'. scripture states, not by 'cold'.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
November 12, 2014 at 9:45 pm
(November 12, 2014 at 9:36 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 12, 2014 at 9:06 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So then how does that match the roaring and intense heat part of your little prediction? Or are you just making shit up as you go along again? science says universe ends in 'heat death' which is 'cold'. scripture states, not by 'cold'.
Right, so the scriptures are wrong.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
November 12, 2014 at 11:09 pm
(November 10, 2014 at 10:52 am)Cato Wrote: (November 10, 2014 at 1:32 am)snowtracks Wrote: ...when not even the protons are spinning around the atom in around 1 trillion years.
When the fuck did protons start spinning around atoms?
hey old man, just figure of speech and you know it. actually though, protons do have spin. http://www.thelawofphysics.com/table-of-...roton-spin
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
November 12, 2014 at 11:17 pm
(November 12, 2014 at 11:09 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 10, 2014 at 10:52 am)Cato Wrote: When the fuck did protons start spinning around atoms?
hey old man, just figure of speech and you know it. actually though, protons do have spin. http://www.thelawofphysics.com/table-of-...roton-spin
Protons have spin, but they don't spin around atoms.
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November 13, 2014 at 3:38 am
I mean, strictly speaking, yes, the Schroedinger equation has them mutually attract each other such that they would rotate around a common center, except that they are smeared out wave functions, not localized marbles like the solar system.
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November 13, 2014 at 4:26 am
(October 10, 2013 at 10:11 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
The current “theory” is that the universe came into being from some explosion called the Big Bang. The standard Big Bang theory does not match smoothness of the cosmic background radiation. So the theory of Inflation was added to the standard Big Bang. That is the latest conjecture of modern science.
Now there are many problems with this “answer” to the origin of the universe. If nothing existed before the Big Bang, then the Big Bang violates a number of principle and laws of science. It violates conservation of mass-energy. The energy went from nothing to all the energy of the universe. It violates cause and effect. Nothing never just explodes and becomes something. It violates all observations, since nothing never just explodes into something. It also does not explain the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe.
If something existed before the Big Bang, then the origin question is not answered at all. If the universe always existed, then the 2nd law of thermodynamics says that all order disappeared an infinite time ago. But that is not the case. Also there is still no explanation of the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe.
Order evolves. But what is order? Your idea of order is not at all in the realm of science. Big Bang does not describe a firecracker. Notice recent study on the Higgs Bison. I am not a scientist, but I will describe my understanding of parts of the arguments. A fluctuation in Higgs Bison can collapse the universe and also the reverse. The Higgs Bison is a particle that gives all molecules mass. A fluctuation in Higgs Bison expanded the universe in the blink of an eye. The universe is still expanding and stretching still amazingly fast. Questions in the argument are: Has this happened before? How many times? What causes the initial fluctuation?
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November 13, 2014 at 5:08 am
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Boson, it's a Boson.
The Higgs field may have been at least partly responsible for Inflation, but there are some technical difficulties with that, and it's at this point hypothetical.
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November 13, 2014 at 6:06 am
(November 13, 2014 at 5:08 am)Alex K Wrote: Boson, it's a Boson.
The Higgs field may have been at least partly responsible for Inflation, but there are some technical difficulties with that, and it's at this point hypothetical.
Thanks, Alec. It's getting interesting, though. Yes, just theoretical, but SBG want atheistic answers, and by God I'm going to give him something!
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
November 13, 2014 at 6:41 am
The Bison is strong with this one!
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