More Questions for Christians

[FatAndFaithless]

Well, reliable in the sense that they're our best current model, not that they're incontrovertibly true.

so the bible is lets grow up and move on from these arguments be cause are right information is key to a happier world instead of magic and sky beings.

...Huh?

[dyresand]

so the bible is lets grow up and move on from these arguments be cause are right information is key to a happier world instead of magic and sky beings.

...Huh?

i fixed it i forgot to add wrong.

[Harry37]

Oh yes I have provided evidence, have you not read the rest of the thread? The stratigraphic column not only shows no indication of a worldwide flood, but includes plenty of evidence directly contradicting it (continuous seasonal deposits that would take weeks to form, layers that could only form through windblown periods, etc) there are whole civilizations that apparently didn't notice getting destroyed by the flood at all, the genetic bottleneck that would result from the flood would be impossible to resolve, the actual logistics of the ark itself would be impossible to execute, etc etc. It's not my fault you didn't bother to do any reading before deciding what I've done here.


So, let me ask you this: you don't know what a basic word, like theory means, so why should any of us believe your other definitions?

And even if we did, your claim that everyone is religious doesn't drag us down to your level, it just creates a two-tiered system where now we have rational religions which are well grounded, and... well, your kind of religion, which isn't. What you can't do is equivocate between definitions. That's dishonest.

Let me just clear this up for our dumb theist friend here.
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.

I'm not sure where you get your definition of the word, "theory," from, certainly not the dictionary. "Theory" is defined as a hypothesis, speculation, assumption, premise, presumption, supposition, or guess; not any semblance of fact.

Your so-called evidence that there wasn't a worldwide flood is based solely on theory. I had to laugh when you said, "...there are whole civilizations that apparently didn't notice getting destroyed by the flood at all..." Stop and think about it, especially since your "dumb theist friend" figured out what a nonsensical statement that is; that's a "fact."

[dyresand]

Let me just clear this up for our dumb theist friend here.
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.

I'm not sure where you get your definition of the word, "theory," from, certainly not the dictionary. "Theory" is defined as a hypothesis, speculation, assumption, premise, presumption, supposition, or guess; not any semblance of fact.

Your so-called evidence that there wasn't a worldwide flood is based solely on theory. I had to laugh when you said, "...there are whole civilizations that apparently didn't notice getting destroyed by the flood at all..." Stop and think about it, especially since your "dumb theist friend" figured out what a nonsensical statement that is; that's a "fact."

it seems to me people use the word theory like its some type of flimsy word. like i have this amazing theory that it rains cats and dogs, that wouldn't be a theory but more of a guess with no evidence that could be proven. a theory is facts, facts being cold hard estimated and calculated documented instances and compiled into a plausible theory that can be tested with accuracy.

[Harry37]

I'm not sure where you get your definition of the word, "theory," from, certainly not the dictionary. "Theory" is defined as a hypothesis, speculation, assumption, premise, presumption, supposition, or guess; not any semblance of fact.

Your so-called evidence that there wasn't a worldwide flood is based solely on theory. I had to laugh when you said, "...there are whole civilizations that apparently didn't notice getting destroyed by the flood at all..." Stop and think about it, especially since your "dumb theist friend" figured out what a nonsensical statement that is; that's a "fact."

it seems to me people use the word theory like its some type of flimsy word. like i have this amazing theory that it rains cats and dogs, that wouldn't be a theory but more of a guess with no evidence that could be proven. a theory is facts, facts being cold hard estimated and calculated documented instances and compiled into a plausible theory that can be tested with accuracy.

Since we disagree on basics such as the definition of words, we have reached a point where further discussion is inhibited. Sorry.

[dyresand]

it seems to me people use the word theory like its some type of flimsy word. like i have this amazing theory that it rains cats and dogs, that wouldn't be a theory but more of a guess with no evidence that could be proven. a theory is facts, facts being cold hard estimated and calculated documented instances and compiled into a plausible theory that can be tested with accuracy.

Since we disagree on basics such as the definition of words, we have reached a point where further discussion is inhibited. Sorry.

well actually a theory is a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
but i thought you meant scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.

[abaris]

So tell me, oh wise flood believer -

[dyresand]

So tell me, oh wise flood believer -

[Tonus]

Noah's flood is simply a war story. It tells how he evaded the invading enemy army that swept through the area destroying and pillaging everything it encountered. The story uses number of war and peace words to show that it was just a war story.

So the part about the rainbow was a way to explain that they celebrated their victory with gay sex?

[dyresand]

Noah's flood is simply a war story. It tells how he evaded the invading enemy army that swept through the area destroying and pillaging everything it encountered. The story uses number of war and peace words to show that it was just a war story.

So the part about the rainbow was a way to explain that they celebrated their victory with gay sex?

god is really um fabulous?