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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(December 12, 2014 at 8:45 pm)IATIA Wrote: Random would distribute all particles and waves equally without form or pattern. Obviously, it is not so.

Or perhaps particles and wave just become distributed in ways that are internally consistent given what they are and how they happen to interact with neighboring stuff.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
You mean something like the 'Big Bang'? Silly me.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(December 10, 2014 at 11:04 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(December 10, 2014 at 2:02 am)snowtracks Wrote: Additional, the earth’s solar system resides within the milky way’s galactic habitable zone (http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedi..._zone.html). Which is a narrow ring around the galactic core where a spiral arm shields it from the core’s deadly radiation --- most area don’t have a night sky for instance but are constantly a blazed in blinding-light. And, most areas within the ‘habitable’ zone itself aren’t livable. The earth happen to be spaced where it is not affected by giant stars, star clusters, dense molecular clouds, supernovae remnants. These bodies can cause gravitational disturbances, dust storms and emit their own deadly radiation.
Scientist formulating theories based on the observed data, detective do the same for developing a case. Both allow a certain margin for coincidences, when a pattern develops they posit what model best fit’s the data. Does it appear to be deliberate or random? Researchers haven’t come close to finding another ‘just right’ advance life location as vast as the universe may seem.

Life just happened to be lucky enough under the right situations at there is other earth like planets that are observable that nasa has found. one day we will have the technology to leave earth and go places but not now. to say god played a role in making the earth is a laughable joke. ill give you a picture on how the earth formed. you know what a picture wont do justice here is a link to a video. http://www.space.com/18245-how-mercury-v...video.html
right from the top, 90% of the galaxies are eliminated from the capability to support advance life. http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2014/...l-galaxies
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(December 13, 2014 at 12:23 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(December 10, 2014 at 11:04 pm)dyresand Wrote: Life just happened to be lucky enough under the right situations at there is other earth like planets that are observable that nasa has found. one day we will have the technology to leave earth and go places but not now. to say god played a role in making the earth is a laughable joke. ill give you a picture on how the earth formed. you know what a picture wont do justice here is a link to a video. http://www.space.com/18245-how-mercury-v...video.html
right from the top, 90% of the galaxies are eliminated from the capability to support advance life. http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2014/...l-galaxies

Exactly so when ever we make some type of first contact either religion goes away or they put in a book mark or add in that they were created by god. or well they are devils and must be eliminated. if they or well sentient i hope well that they are for the most part friendly.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
Er... OK Snow. What point are you trying to make now?

The universe is extremely badly suited for life in general? Yes, that seems to be true.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(December 13, 2014 at 12:23 am)snowtracks Wrote: right from the top, 90% of the galaxies are eliminated from the capability to support advance life. http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2014/...l-galaxies
10 percent of the 100 billion OBSERVABLE galaxies leaves us with 10 billion potential galaxies containing billions upon billions of potential planets.

I do not get your point.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(December 13, 2014 at 11:24 am)IATIA Wrote:
(December 13, 2014 at 12:23 am)snowtracks Wrote: right from the top, 90% of the galaxies are eliminated from the capability to support advance life. http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2014/...l-galaxies
10 percent of the 100 billion OBSERVABLE galaxies leaves us with 10 billion potential galaxies containing billions upon billions of potential planets.

I do not get your point.

Moreover, the article states that it's the smaller Galaxies which are more problematic, so if you go by the percentage of suitable stars you would lose as candidates because of this problem, I would guess it's even less. But then again, I don't get the point either, there's still plenty of galaxies, plenty of stars, and of course the universe doesn't end at our visible horizon. It's at least 10 times as big, and considering how flat it looks, probably mind bogglingly larger if not infinite.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(December 13, 2014 at 11:24 am)IATIA Wrote:
(December 13, 2014 at 12:23 am)snowtracks Wrote: right from the top, 90% of the galaxies are eliminated from the capability to support advance life. http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2014/...l-galaxies
10 percent of the 100 billion OBSERVABLE galaxies leaves us with 10 billion potential galaxies containing billions upon billions of potential planets.

I do not get your point.
90% of the sites from the start for advanced life are eliminate from a naturalistic explanation. 10% is still large, I get it.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
What?

You're saying that the fact that the universe is almost entirely lethal to humans is evidence it was made specifically for us? Wow that is a low bar.

I really cannot follow your arguments snow, I think you are working backwards from conclusions, which is why you have to force square objects into round holes to make the argument.

We don't need a naturalistic explanation to dismiss unfounded ridiculous claims. Trashing science does not prove God. As it happens, you are not even making a dent in science at the moment.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(December 13, 2014 at 3:02 pm)robvalue Wrote: What?

You're saying that the fact that the universe is almost entirely lethal to humans is evidence it was made specifically for us? Wow that is a low bar.

I really cannot follow your arguments snow, I think you are working backwards from conclusions, which is why you have to force square objects into round holes to make the argument.

We don't need a naturalistic explanation to dismiss unfounded ridiculous claims. Trashing science does not prove God. As it happens, you are not even making a dent in science at the moment.

so god made the universe extremely dangerous and dropped of us off on a planet that would eventually get destroyed by the sun. and we are working on getting the fuck out before that predated time and fast. yet the universe is so dangerous to human beings due to radiation and other anomalies such as black holes quasars etc. so god had a justified reason to make the universe so dangerous the way it was? Thinking yeah no if that was the case why is that you know the universe is going towards a eventual heat death and everything will be frozen in place. @snowtracks
also heaven and hell if they both exist would to be subject to entropy.
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