The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands

[Sonny]

Ugh.

I'm not sure what to make of this poster. On the one hand he's at least familiar with theology, as the idea of god as an immense consciousness that composes of and extends beyond all of existence comes from that. But at the same time the rhetorical style leaves a lot to be desired. Added to this he seems to believe that the bible supports this, which it does not.

However the argument gets sillier as it goes on. If god is the universe, that is to say all of what is observable, then God has no will and is essentially dead. He claims the universe is alive as a giant super ing but in order for that to work you have to redefine what life is to the point where it becomes meaningless.

This was incredibly difficult to read, partially because of the teeny eye-straino font, and partially because of the misuse of grammar and punctuation. I tend to dismiss excessive uses of the caps lock key, and of the exclamation point. It makes comprehension difficult.

yeah let's focus on the poster and not on WHAT HE POSTS! LOL

I am sorry it was difficult for me to understand you needed help off that burning building. i understood. But it was hard therefore i wonder should i not dismiss my efforts at rescuing you based on the fact well i didn't much care for your methods of communication.... they seem... primitive to me.

Derren Brown them harder man lol

If YOU choose to look at the UNIVERSE and see it as 'essentially dead' then what efforts will you make to see whether or not you are correct?
Just going to bet your life on it?

I choose to see it as ALIVE because I SEE IT THAT WAY FOR REAL LOL

hard to miss...

if you do not CHOOSE to EVER look at it in a HAPPY way with LOVE and GRATITUDE in your heart then you will learn the valuable lesson of how much PERSPECTIVE can BLIND you from REALITY.

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You clearly are a troll, LOLOLOLOL

says the Troll that has no valid intelligence to add to the discussion and had to resort to NAME CALLING.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL right back at ya bud hahahahahaha!

[Lucanus]

Anyway, let me get this straight:
The BIBLE (LOL!!) makes the CLAIM that GOD IS THE UNIVERSE.

The ATHEIST (N00B!1!) cannot UNDERSTAND and is STUPID and rejects the REALITY of GOD LOLOLOL he's so BLIND he can't see the EVIDENCE lying before his eyes (that is there because YOU SAID SO, and YOU don't need to SHOW it to ANYONE).

ROTFLOL with me LOLOLOL



This was painful to write, so bear with me

[Sonny]

You clearly are a troll, LOLOLOLOL

Could it be a bot? The answers seem to be very similar and less than human in their quality.
I wonder if someone is trying a turing test on us.

yes! maybe we can distract people from what he is saying that contradicts our own beliefs by questioning whether or not he is even human!!!!!!!!
since we ran out of logical reasons for why our beliefs are valid...

If i am a bot i want to order twenty copies hahahaha

Speaking of copies ANYONE may copy, resell, reprint, repost etc ANYTHING I POST and keep all the money if that is your thing.

[Natachan]

Ugh.

I'm not sure what to make of this poster. On the one hand he's at least familiar with theology, as the idea of god as an immense consciousness that composes of and extends beyond all of existence comes from that. But at the same time the rhetorical style leaves a lot to be desired. Added to this he seems to believe that the bible supports this, which it does not.

However the argument gets sillier as it goes on. If god is the universe, that is to say all of what is observable, then God has no will and is essentially dead. He claims the universe is alive as a giant super ing but in order for that to work you have to redefine what life is to the point where it becomes meaningless.

This was incredibly difficult to read, partially because of the teeny eye-straino font, and partially because of the misuse of grammar and punctuation. I tend to dismiss excessive uses of the caps lock key, and of the exclamation point. It makes comprehension difficult.

yeah let's focus on the poster and not on WHAT HE POSTS! LOL

I am sorry it was difficult for me to understand you needed help off that burning building. i understood. But it was hard therefore i wonder should i not dismiss my efforts at rescuing you based on the fact well i didn't much care for your methods of communication.... they seem... primitive to me.

Derren Brown them harder man lol

If YOU choose to look at the UNIVERSE and see it as 'essentially dead' then what efforts will you make to see whether or not you are correct?
Just going to bet your life on it?

I choose to see it as ALIVE because I SEE IT THAT WAY FOR REAL LOL

hard to miss...

if you do not CHOOSE to EVER look at it in a HAPPY way with LOVE and GRATITUDE in your heart then you will learn the valuable lesson of how much PERSPECTIVE can BLIND you from REALITY.

You are on a discussion forum. As such, your text is the only method I have to communicate and to know what your point is. Making that communication as clear as possible with proper and controlled use of grammatical tools is important if we wish to have a discussion. Which I don't think you do.

If you want to believe that rocks are alive, fine. That doesn't mean they are. Either something is, or it is not. And by the definition of what life is the universe is not alive. If you wish to view it that way, fine. Go ahead. But you are trying to convince others of that, and as such you will be called silly. We have no reason to think it is alive. And even if we did no reason to endow it with the implications or actions of the god of the major religions.

[Sonny]

Anyway, let me get this straight:
The BIBLE (LOL!!) makes the CLAIM that GOD IS THE UNIVERSE.

The ATHEIST (N00B!1!) cannot UNDERSTAND and is STUPID and rejects the REALITY of GOD LOLOLOL he's so BLIND he can't see the EVIDENCE lying before his eyes (that is there because YOU SAID SO, and YOU don't need to SHOW it to ANYONE).

ROTFLOL with me LOLOLOL



This was painful to write, so bear with me

Just breathe you are VERY CLOSE HAHA!!!!!!!!

the Bible is DEFINING the CONCEPT that the word GOD represents.

you must 1st GET THAT CONCEPT.

Then you will laugh as i say because umm dam lol
The way people struggle over understanding this is just awesome ROFL!

and again it isn't because I say so it is because the individuals that INTRODUCED the CONCEPT to MANKIND said so....

How convenient for you to call them liars and substitute your definition instead.

i am not doing that.
YOU ARE.

I am AGREEING with the WRITERS about the CONCEPT they are DESCRIBING in METAPHORS and ANALOGIES...

Come on guys for real lol

NOT A HARD THING TO UNDERSTAND!

I didn't make this stuff up it is what the BOOKS say....

READ THEM...

I Did...

so have MANY OTHERS lololol

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You are on a discussion forum. As such, your text is the only method I have to communicate and to know what your point is. Making that communication as clear as possible with proper and controlled use of grammatical tools is important if we wish to have a discussion. Which I don't think you do.

If you want to believe that rocks are alive, fine. That doesn't mean they are. Either something is, or it is not. And by the definition of what life is the universe is not alive. If you wish to view it that way, fine. Go ahead. But you are trying to convince others of that, and as such you will be called silly. We have no reason to think it is alive. And even if we did no reason to endow it with the implications or actions of the god of the major religions.
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WOW you guys are THICK LOL

This has NOTHING TO DO WITH MY BELIEFS!

This is about what does RELIGION define as GOD!!!!!!!

Not about what YOU define as God.
Not about what I define as God.
IT IS WHAT DOES RELIGION DEFINES AS GOD.

Knowing that only BEGINS your understanding of God.

THEN try and say God is imaginary and you will see why we LAUGH SO HARD WHEN YOU DO!!!!!!

It is MUCh more like a BIG JOKE than you might think hahahahaha

probably so you will APPRECIATE it more!

I know I do hahahahahahaha

[Piscinin]

If you`re more than eight I'm sorry for you.

[Sonny]

If you`re more than eight I'm sorry for you.

yeah I'm 50 and never been happier in all my life.
thank you for this

i'm sorry you can't understand a simple concept an 8 year old can understand.

Maybe read what I posted?

[abaris]

So nine pages of advertising pantheism. How novel. As if none of us has ever been there. I've been a pantheist for quite some while after leaving christianity behind and I didn't need an effing bible to come up with that.

[Brian37]

"God" is a human concocted concept reflecting human narcissism and fear of being finite. It is called pulling shit out of your ass.

Oh and FYI, quoting a holy book to prove a holy book is called circular reasoning. It doesn't work when Muslims or Jews do it either.

[Sonny]

So nine pages of advertising pantheism. How novel. As if none of us has ever been there. I've been a pantheist for quite some while after leaving christianity behind and I didn't need an effing bible to come up with that.

you can call it Chopped Sushi if you want.

I am just calling it what THE BIBLE is calling it.
So those that are capable of understanding can understand.

We LOVE God because we LOVE LIFE.

A lot of you guys seem to have some hate issues towards the subject of God (had you noticed? hahaha)

maybe that is getting in the way of knowing the greatest thing you can ever know?

and ...

to address your point....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

"Pantheists thus do not believe in a distinct personal or anthropomorphic god"

the BIBLE does...
ABSOLUTELY believe in an anthropomorphic God.
See my 1st post for quotes.

So no I am NOT at ALL PANTHEIST lol but nice try
maybe next time you will shoot me down with a snappy one liner...

Stop FIGHTING me guys and start LEARNING SOMETHING GREAT!
LOLOLOL!