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How powerful is god?
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#61
RE: How powerful is god?
January 2, 2015 at 9:53 pm
(January 2, 2015 at 9:43 pm)Schwa Wrote: Buk-bugock! Buk buk... brruck!

Heh what?
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#62
RE: How powerful is god?
January 2, 2015 at 10:42 pm
(January 2, 2015 at 9:53 pm)Spooky Wrote:
(January 2, 2015 at 9:43 pm)Schwa Wrote: Buk-bugock! Buk buk... brruck!

Heh what?

It's nonsense....like the moveable/unmoveable rock.
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#63
RE: How powerful is god?
January 2, 2015 at 10:45 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 7:53 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(January 1, 2015 at 7:49 pm)lifesagift Wrote: by that I mean, I have no belief in any god, but so many people do believe.... so why does god, all powerful, let me not believe?

Some one is going to say free will.

God is so powerful he doesn't even need to exist.
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#64
RE: How powerful is god?
January 2, 2015 at 10:53 pm (This post was last modified: January 2, 2015 at 10:54 pm by JuliaL.)
(January 2, 2015 at 9:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: Lying isn't a power, it's the result of one not using their brain.

GC

I don't agree that lying is the result of not using one's brain. Some lies take lots of creativity and planning and maintaining them is so intellectually difficult that the benefits aren't generally worth the effort.

However for the sake of argument-
By not using my brain I can do something which the nominally omnipotent god can't.
If omnipotence is defined as the ability to anything possible:
I can, showing the action is possible.
He can't.
Not omnipotent QED.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
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#65
RE: How powerful is god?
January 3, 2015 at 12:23 am
(January 2, 2015 at 10:53 pm)JuliaL Wrote:
(January 2, 2015 at 9:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: Lying isn't a power, it's the result of one not using their brain.

GC

I don't agree that lying is the result of not using one's brain. Some lies take lots of creativity and planning and maintaining them is so intellectually difficult that the benefits aren't generally worth the effort.

Like that whole lie made up about god from the bronze age. ROFLOL
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 3, 2015 at 5:47 am (This post was last modified: January 3, 2015 at 5:48 am by robvalue.)
God has the power to take it in the ass all day from atheists and do nothing about it.

Oh Zeus! Sorry. Yeah Zeus is badass. Much better than the crap we have today.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 3, 2015 at 8:22 am
(January 3, 2015 at 5:47 am)robvalue Wrote: God has the power to take it in the ass all day from atheists and do nothing about it.

Oh Zeus! Sorry. Yeah Zeus is badass. Much better than the crap we have today.

At least Zeus would look down on us to make sure we were okay and even come down and be like hey humans whats up. If god/jesus comes down were fucked.... All in all if Zeus were real he would be a better god.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 3, 2015 at 8:43 am (This post was last modified: January 3, 2015 at 8:52 am by h4ym4n.)
(January 2, 2015 at 9:11 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(January 2, 2015 at 11:16 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Ah, so god does know at this very moment, and for all of time, where I will be spending my eternal life.

Do I have or have I ever had the ability to change that destination?

You will always be able to choose God and the salvation that comes through Christ. Here's the question you should be asking, do I want to change the destination I was born to, all are born without salvation and that's something you can change.

I'm pretty sure I know what you're try to get at and you should look at this situation you think you can't change in this way, God knows your eternal destination and for all you know it's heaven.

So you are saying god intentionally creates humans with a hell destination? Kind of like living life like a puppet and being forced to live a life you don't want.

You don't see the contradiction, do you?

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Do you desire to be a puppet, do you desire to make your own choices, do you want to be forced to live a life you don't want?

I will agree with you that if your god exists then it has my destination all figured out and I am doing/acting exactly as planned. Like a puppet, wouldn't you agree?

more then half my life is over now and I never believed your god exists. Are you suggesting it, god, will reveal itself to me in my last years and change my mind?

Why do you think I have the power to over right your omnipotent gods decision? Thought your god never changes?

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RE: How powerful is god?
January 3, 2015 at 8:50 am
Ah but.... [ad hoc rationalization #34782494316]
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 3, 2015 at 1:59 pm
(January 3, 2015 at 8:43 am)h4ym4n Wrote:
(January 2, 2015 at 9:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: You will always be able to choose God and the salvation that comes through Christ. Here's the question you should be asking, do I want to change the destination I was born to, all are born without salvation and that's something you can change.

I'm pretty sure I know what you're try to get at and you should look at this situation you think you can't change in this way, God knows your eternal destination and for all you know it's heaven.

So you are saying god intentionally creates humans with a hell destination?

But... he loves you.
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