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RE: How powerful is god?
January 4, 2015 at 6:25 am
Indeed, a nonsensical concept cannot itself cause any harm, you are right. It's what people do with that concept. Which is a lot of horrible things. I fear we may be approaching a world war because of it.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 4, 2015 at 6:37 am
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2015 at 6:41 am by h4ym4n.)
(January 3, 2015 at 8:43 am)h4ym4n Wrote: (January 2, 2015 at 9:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: You will always be able to choose God and the salvation that comes through Christ. Here's the question you should be asking, do I want to change the destination I was born to, all are born without salvation and that's something you can change.
I'm pretty sure I know what you're try to get at and you should look at this situation you think you can't change in this way, God knows your eternal destination and for all you know it's heaven.
So you are saying god intentionally creates humans with a hell destination? Kind of like living life like a puppet and being forced to live a life you don't want.
You don't see the contradiction, do you?
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Do you desire to be a puppet, do you desire to make your own choices, do you want to be forced to live a life you don't want?
I will agree with you that if your god exists then it has my destination all figured out and I am doing/acting exactly as planned. Like a puppet, wouldn't you agree?
more then half my life is over now and I never believed your god exists. Are you suggesting it, god, will reveal itself to me in my last years and change my mind?
Why do you think I have the power to over right your omnipotent gods decision? Thought your god never changes?
Is your silence your way of saying you have seen the light GC?
Starting to see what a monster you are worshiping?
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Here's the question you should be asking, do I want to change the destination I was born to....
God knows your eternal destination and for all you know it's heaven....
Does your god create human puppets at birth with hell and eternal torture as their destination?
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 4, 2015 at 6:41 am
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2015 at 6:43 am by robvalue.)
Claiming God has all knowledge is a huge mistake. It leads to atrocities like these, as well as contradictions, and negating its own free will. You can't have all knowledge and free will, gotta arbitrarily choose one or the other.
Or forever tap dance around the fire that long since burnt out.
Face it, God loses to logic. To make it even consistent you have to say he has all knowledge that is logically possible.
Logic is God. Slam dunk.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 4, 2015 at 7:26 am
God is a concept, the only so called power he has is what we give him. The power is given from those who believe in him, and those who don't believe in him, for if there is no god, then why wast power on trying to disbelieve him, for if there is no god, there is no need to try and prove him wrong, because he doesn't exist.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 4, 2015 at 7:31 am
I think it's funny to beat up on a non existent character. And just maybe some theist somewhere will read it and pause to think for a second.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 4, 2015 at 7:47 am
(January 4, 2015 at 7:26 am)psychoslice Wrote: God is a concept, the only so called power he has is what we give him. The power is given from those who believe in him, and those who don't believe in him, for if there is no god, then why wast power on trying to disbelieve him, for if there is no god, there is no need to try and prove him wrong, because he doesn't exist.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 4, 2015 at 7:51 am
(January 4, 2015 at 7:47 am)h4ym4n Wrote: (January 4, 2015 at 7:26 am)psychoslice Wrote: God is a concept, the only so called power he has is what we give him. The power is given from those who believe in him, and those who don't believe in him, for if there is no god, then why wast power on trying to disbelieve him, for if there is no god, there is no need to try and prove him wrong, because he doesn't exist.
I'll stop when you stop
I can never stop, life is ever flowing and that is what I am.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 5, 2015 at 4:26 pm
I asked god to peel my orange.... and i'm waiting.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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RE: How powerful is god?
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 5, 2015 at 10:05 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 7:53 pm)dyresand Wrote: Some one is going to say free will.
... and eventually someone is going to say cabbage hammer.
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