I think Satan is the Christian version of Prometheus. He is the one that encourages men to get off their knees and grow in independence. Sorry boss gods, but thanks to Satan/Prometheus, we got this now. Burn your own offerings.
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Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God
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Satan sounds like a pretty chill dude.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson 
So, I am trying to understand Drich's beliefs. Correct me if I have this wrong please, Drich
Lucifer experienced life with an all powerful, all knowing being that believers call, god. Lucifer perceived god as being weak so he attacked an all powerful being even though that being is all powerful and can't be weak. The angels waged war on god. How exactly did they fight? Was it a physical battle with swords or machine guns? Did it happen in their minds? God doesn't have a body, how does he fight? Lucifer was defeated and then what happened? God rewarded him with the earth? What was the point?  (January 5, 2015 at 9:58 am)whateverist Wrote: I think Satan is the Christian version of Prometheus. He is the one that encourages men to get off their knees and grow in independence. Sorry boss gods, but thanks to Satan/Prometheus, we got this now. Burn your own offerings. Because well satan wants us to grow up god doesn't. God is like the crazy mom who won't let go and is like no your staying here and going to college i don't care what you say. Then after graduation mom is still like no your not going anywhere until you get a job. When you get your job no you got to pay rent and your not going anywhere until you find a place to live. No your not moving in there or there or there stay here or you can move to that shitty dump there (I.E. Hell).
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January 5, 2015 at 12:32 pm
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(January 5, 2015 at 9:58 am)whateverist Wrote: I think Satan is the Christian version of Prometheus. He is the one that encourages men to get off their knees and grow in independence. Sorry boss gods, but thanks to Satan/Prometheus, we got this now. Burn your own offerings.IDK, he doesn't seem interested in our independence, more of a grudge match with god. But..if I had to liken the medieval concept of satan to classical greek mythology I'd probably choose miasma over prometheus. I think that satan has, in recent times, been viewed more and more -as- a promethean figure, but I suspect that this has more to do with the resistance to christian asshatery than it does with the actual character itself.
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 (January 5, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I think that satan has, in recent times, been viewed more and more -as- a promethean figure, but I suspect that this has more to do with the resistance to christian asshatery than it does with the actual character itself. In fact, Satan is an archetype. The rebel against the god in power, whom you can find in many religions. Go north and there's Loki, go south and you have all the characters trying to dethrone Zeus, go yet a bit further south and you have Seth. ![[Image: Bumper+Sticker+-+Asheville+-+Praise+Dog3.JPG]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d-3rfdI7nG0%2FTerwtFyFXoI%2FAAAAAAAACak%2F7kFSmHeVrng%2Fs320%2FBumper%2BSticker%2B-%2BAsheville%2B-%2BPraise%2BDog3.JPG)
In that case I'll take Lord Petyr Baelish, that little fucker is tricksy as hell.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
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January 5, 2015 at 12:43 pm
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(January 5, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(January 5, 2015 at 9:58 am)whateverist Wrote: I think Satan is the Christian version of Prometheus. He is the one that encourages men to get off their knees and grow in independence. Sorry boss gods, but thanks to Satan/Prometheus, we got this now. Burn your own offerings.IDK, he doesn't seem interested in our independence, more of a grudge match with god. But..if I had to liken the medieval concept of satan to classical greek mythology I'd probably choose miasma over prometheus. I think that satan has, in recent times, been viewed more and more -as- a promethean figure, but I suspect that this has more to do with the resistance to christian asshatery than it does with the actual character itself. Because the devil cares about our independence. Only god talked about how satan hates humans when he doesn't otherwise he would have a higher kill count than magical kim jong il in sky north korea. The devil had his free will i think he is pissed at god for not allowing humans to get it free will even if god is the creator of everything the devil probably knew its unethical and its wrong to command people around without their free will of saying yes or no. In other words the devil wants us to have choices of our own instead of being talked down to. Other wise why would the devil care to give us free will and fight god. The devil he is like batman he is the hero no christian want's but needs.
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January 5, 2015 at 12:56 pm
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Loki and Prometheus are much more in line with each other as characters (significant divergence here as well, of course). They suffer similar fates for similar reasons (and this may be an example of later revisionism....it's just too tidy). Loki's not a rebel - he's a member of the court. He actually helps them cheat people/giants/spirits on a near constant basis. In the end they banish him not for being who he is (they were fine with that so long as it served their purpose) but because he decided to play a trick on one of their own. He's later released, but not by men, and he has no particular regard for men at all. Significantly, Lokis side wins ragnarok (and we lose) - quite the departure from our bumbling Satan and damsel in distress Prometheus.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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